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03-16-2015 02:03 PM
hellosailor
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

In a major city you should be able to find a "reprographics" business. They make, copy, scan, print, blueprints and other oversize documents for the architectural and design trades, and will have no problem with 3'x4' and larger size sheets.
03-16-2015 01:24 PM
talonawd91
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

I'm interested in the drawings too. I'd chip in to have them scanned on a full size setup some where if that's an option.

I'll look for pics of the shoe but I could take some more. And if you really really need it, I could pull the shoe and bring it to a CAD place to have them take measurements and make you a drawing on your dime. They are rare boats so I know how hard it is to get this stuff. We need to work together =)

-Jeff
03-16-2015 01:13 AM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by wamcneil View Post
I've got several working drawings of the Nimbus I got from Mike Kaufmann about 15 yr ago. If anybody is interested I could look into duplicating them, but they're blueprints and may not reproduce that well.
I called him to ask what the rudder bearings and structure were supposed to look like, then faxed him my own drawings of how the boat was actually constructed. They differed substantially in some cases...
He was very nice, and sent me blueprints.
Wamcneil,
I'll be interested in the drawings. I'm trying to figure out the design of the rudder shoe? I can't PM yet (less than 15 posts) please PM me if you still have the drawings.
Thanks,
02-22-2015 12:54 AM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

What's the headroom height? Especially in the living area.
02-13-2015 11:32 AM
talonawd91
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by capo View Post
Thank you for the very informative response. She sounds like a good boat. Couple more questions.

- Few people mentioned "Taiwanese issues", what's that mean?
- Is there enough storage space at cockpit lazarettes? I can't tell from drawings.
- What about the engine? Did anyone replaced the pathfinder? Anything worth noting?

And more importantly does anyone know someone with an Albin Nimbus 42 around San Francisco Bay area or California? We'd like to visit one and see how she feels.
The lazarettes are not tremendous, but space in the areas around and below is HUGE. It could use some creative plywood installation, but then you would have lots of space for the not so often used items.

Ours did not have any of the taiwanese issues. Everything looked pretty high bar, but I think part of that may be due to refits along the way. The Hull it's self is VERY well built. The internals are not bad minus some non-marine plywood here and there.
02-04-2015 09:30 AM
hellosailor
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

The Taiwanese shipyards at that time (and I won't say all of them, but many) were known for cutting corners. In the larger Chinese tradition of "Eh, they're hairy eyed barbarians, what they don't know they'll still pay good money for" the yards were known to cut corners, use untrained labor, work in the wrong conditions, and generally make a product that LOOKED like it was supposed to look, but on taking it apart or subjecting it to years of hard use, you'd find things hadn't been done as spec'd.

Some companies had no problems, some yards had no problems, some took the step of having an on-site qc manager to make sure no corners were cut. (Which is STILL advised by many folks doing business with China, more so in the mainland.)

OTOH Albin was known for "North Sea" standards typical of Finnish yards, where a yard would have been horrified to hear that their hull was only 25mm thick if the spec had been 26.

A very different tradition behind the entire production force.

Personally, I'd always thought the Nimbus wasn't a Taiwanese build, but I'd certainly not the expert there. The old teak decks, and the many kludges owners have done to strip them off and "refinish" the fiberglass, might be more of a concern. New glass, or canvas coating in with resin, or some very expensive and extensive yard work...Any boat that has had a teak deak stripped off, can have some baffling leak problems. And back then, if it was glued down, the glue would be failing. If it was screwed down....Well, nice for the first 20 years anyway. Kinda like what some folks say about trophy spouses. (Of both genders!)
02-03-2015 02:23 PM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by talonawd91 View Post
My rudder was opened and resealed. The stock was a solid 3 inch rod, machines to a pintle tip at the end to fit into the shoe. overall the rudder needed 3 men to lift it. Needless to say, I did not experience the short rudder shaft issue.

Ours is not "stock" in many ways so it may not apply but our headliners were sections held up by velcro stuck to wood battens. This gave the space to run wires for overhead lights and such.

I find ours to have enough light, but I am not too picky on that front and feel if I want much more I go above deck.

I redid our chainplates so I know them well. The are over 4.5' long and 10mm thick on port and starboard, and they are bolted into a 2 inch thick structural member that runs fore and aft. I've never seen a chainplate set to serious. The forward plate is a pretty complex bent piece that again is bolted in by many bolts in the box. The aft plate is a simple plate. All were fairly easy to replace, but the bow was a machine shop special for shaping and such. I made the stay plates out of titanium so as to never have to do it again.

Nothing I can think of on the survey front and the keel has been a non issue and I think stays such on most of them built.

Bilge is nothing special, fairly shallow but does the job. it's not huge so that one has head room instead.

Can't speak to thru hulls that are OEM. We redid ours, and I can say each had a generous backing plate for mounting the new ones to.
Thank you for the very informative response. She sounds like a good boat. Couple more questions.

- Few people mentioned "Taiwanese issues", what's that mean?
- Is there enough storage space at cockpit lazarettes? I can't tell from drawings.
- What about the engine? Did anyone replaced the pathfinder? Anything worth noting?

And more importantly does anyone know someone with an Albin Nimbus 42 around San Francisco Bay area or California? We'd like to visit one and see how she feels.
02-03-2015 01:08 AM
talonawd91
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Quote:
Originally Posted by capo View Post
Hello,
This thread has been very helpful for me to get to know the nimbus 42. We are also interested in this boat. I have couple of questions;
-Did anyone else check the rudder stock on their boat as it was mentioned that it only penetrated the rudder by 6"?
- how does the headliner attached? Is it easy to access installed deck hardwoare?
- how are the chainplates attached? Bulkheads? How?
- any specific issues/areas to pay attention to when surveying?
- Is there enough day light inside? I can't really find good photos of interior.
- any issues with iron encapsulated keel? Or mast step? What does the bilge look like?
- what about thru hulls or seacocks? Bronze? Quality? How are they installed?


Thanks in advance,
Omer
My rudder was opened and resealed. The stock was a solid 3 inch rod, machines to a pintle tip at the end to fit into the shoe. overall the rudder needed 3 men to lift it. Needless to say, I did not experience the short rudder shaft issue.

Ours is not "stock" in many ways so it may not apply but our headliners were sections held up by velcro stuck to wood battens. This gave the space to run wires for overhead lights and such.

I find ours to have enough light, but I am not too picky on that front and feel if I want much more I go above deck.

I redid our chainplates so I know them well. The are over 4.5' long and 10mm thick on port and starboard, and they are bolted into a 2 inch thick structural member that runs fore and aft. I've never seen a chainplate set to serious. The forward plate is a pretty complex bent piece that again is bolted in by many bolts in the box. The aft plate is a simple plate. All were fairly easy to replace, but the bow was a machine shop special for shaping and such. I made the stay plates out of titanium so as to never have to do it again.

Nothing I can think of on the survey front and the keel has been a non issue and I think stays such on most of them built.

Bilge is nothing special, fairly shallow but does the job. it's not huge so that one has head room instead.

Can't speak to thru hulls that are OEM. We redid ours, and I can say each had a generous backing plate for mounting the new ones to.
02-03-2015 12:54 AM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Hello,
This thread has been very helpful for me to get to know the nimbus 42. We are also interested in this boat. I have couple of questions;
-Did anyone else check the rudder stock on their boat as it was mentioned that it only penetrated the rudder by 6"?
- how is the headliner attached? Is it easy to access installed deck hardwoare?
- how are the chainplates attached? Bulkheads? How?
- any specific issues/areas to pay attention to when surveying?
- Is there enough day light inside? I can't really find good photos of interior.
- any issues with iron encapsulated keel? Or mast step? What does the bilge look like?
- what about thru hulls or seacocks? Bronze? Quality? How are they installed?


Thanks in advance,
06-20-2013 12:18 PM
wamcneil
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Right. I tore out a bunch of PVC pipe that was originally glassed up under the cockpit sole and replaced it with wire reinforced hose leading down to the through hull on the same side of the boat; teeing the front and rear drains on each side.
Yes, a little water will come up into the aft corner of the cockpit when the boat is leaned over, but drains right back out again when heel is reduced and it's a LOT less then the amount of green water than gets trapped in there when the boat is heeled over in nasty weather.
When the drains cross over, it works beautifully... when the boat is level. Of course it doesn't matter when the boat is level...
But when the boat is heeled over, water has to go from the low side drain UP to the windward side of the boat, and that means that the water has to be pretty deep in the corner of the cockpit before it will even start to drain out.
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