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Southron Spirit 04-26-2012 06:45 PM

swing keel problem
 
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outboard died gave up after 1.5 hrs went to load it on the trailer ,
first try was not quite right , tried again and something was really wrong .
finally after another hour dragged it out of the water to see this .

dont know for sure how im going to fix this , but i will be decking over part of the trailer so nothing like this can happen again .

Southron Spirit 04-26-2012 06:49 PM

Re: swing keel problem
 
any suggestions ? only thing i can think of is to cut the swing keel with a jig saw ,then have the remainder removed and make another one

all of those braces that go in towards the keel are going to be moved so they go to the outside of the trailer .

the line going to the swing keel is still tight so something is going on there also .

deniseO30 04-26-2012 07:04 PM

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it's pretty common for the uninformed trailer sailer. You need a "cattle chute" type of guide for the keel. Weld (or bolt) uprights about 2" on either side the keel and progressively wider to the end of the trailer. When the boat lines up it will guide the keel (and the boat attached to it right in! You also need boards on the bottom of the chute too. It works very well at my YC where all the cradles and trailers have the "chute" ck the cable or tackle that holds the keel up too. Good luck!

Southron Spirit 04-26-2012 07:10 PM

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i am uniformed about trailer sailing ,im getting educated at the school of hard knocks it looks like

deniseO30 04-26-2012 08:35 PM

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if a picture is worth a thousand words... http://www.trailnsail.com/alumin1.jpg

You should be able to fix the drop keel. epoxy filler and cloth if needed. you will have to completely strip the paint from it to though.

windyway 04-29-2012 11:20 PM

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I would not cut the swing keel with a jig saw. You need to get the boat off the trailer for this work or put it in the water & with scuba gear take the swing keel off. (I did the former) The steel side plate is removed to reveal a pin with a theaded hole in it. Attach a bolt to this to get a grip on the pin & pull it out. The swing keel will drop down to give you access to the cable attach point that you can disconnect. The swing keel is fiberglass exterior with foam interior but 50lbs of lead shot epoxied into the lower portion of the keel itself to keep it down in the water when extended. I bought some shotgun shot & mixed it with a slurry of epoxy to repair the missing portions on the bottom of mine. Make sure you don't make the keel longer than the slot it fits into! LOL If you PM me your email address I can send you pictures of my repair.

Your boat seems to be just hanging on to the trailer. It is suppose to be supported by the keel (90%) & yours seems off a bit... better fix that soon.

Southron Spirit 04-30-2012 09:06 PM

swing keel bolt removal -5/16th bolt
 
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i loaded up the truck full of gear and made the 20 minute drive to the club .
not knowing what size bolt i need to pull the swing keel pivot bolt i got
one of each ,turns out it is a 5/16th bolt .

once i got the bolt moving it backed out easy on the trailer .
i spent a hour with the boat in the water trying to get the swing keel to drop
out . could not get the boat to float high enough to get the swing keel
to drop out ,i had the keel tied off with twine so it would stay with the trailer

i ended up having to cut the tip of the swing keel off it was jammed under a trailer beam , it was pretty mangled anyway .it didnt let the keel drop out but ,it did let it go back up inside the
keel slot .
the boat finally floated off the trailer and i pulled it out to fix the other issue of fighting to get it on the keel board every time.

Southron Spirit 04-30-2012 09:10 PM

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at the end of the day with the new rails on the trailer the boat sat right the first time , i was pretty happy .
i have a one piece board i bought that will go the lenth of the trailer for the keel
to rest on but i forgot the grinder to grind out the rusted bolts that are holding the 3 boards that are now on the trailer

deniseO30 04-30-2012 11:24 PM

Re: swing keel problem
 
Good job! Real lucky on the pin. so many people have big problems with the pin for the keel.

JUST MESSIN WITH IT 05-05-2012 10:35 PM

Re: swing keel problem
 
Had a complete disaster today. Much the same as you had.
I have been renovating the interior of my boat , and itching to get it in the water. Finally today i was ready for launch...or so i thought.

What i didnt realise was the keel cable had snapped the last time i had the boat in water. When we went to float it off it got stuck ... im thinking the water must be shallow as we have not had much rain. Never occurred to me the keel might have dropped down and got stuck between the trailer axles. So we couldnt go backwards and the boat had shifted sideways a bit. Finally decided to drag it back out again.. As my buddy pulled up the ramp the whole boat sudden learched sideways then dropped down again. Before i could shout stop we were right out of the water. The keel had folded over and was partially snapped in half. The whole boat was resting on the keel that was sticking right out by the tires.... Couldnt float the boat and couldnt drive it home as it was tilted over. Had to run to local walmart and buy trolly jacks and a 6 ton bottle jack. Over to home depot and buy timber and a dremel multi saw. Jacked the boat up a little and cut chunks of the keel off. Eventually managed to get enough of it cut off to let the boat sit back down on the rollers. The remaining part i was able to pck back into the keel box. Managed to pull the keel pin easily and push the remainder of the keel backwards to drop it out behind the back axle.

So now i have no keel . just chunks of fiberglass..... not sure im even going to bother replacing the keel right away... The water level in out lake chain is pretty low , its really hard getting in and out of the water.. so im gonna leave it moored up for now.... at least i can use it every weekend.


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