Info on the O'Day Outlaw??
I am looking into buying a 1969 O'Day Outlaw, but have had a really hard time finding much info online. Has anyone had any experience with the Outlaw that they would care to share? I am looking for anything from basic specs to personal experiences (good and bad) to known issues that I should be aware of. Thanks.
I have a outlaw and I have a friend who also has one. They are great boats that handle well and are surprizingly fast. We also both had the same problem with water in the aft compartments. In the storage area under the seats. He would find quite a bit of water after a sail and I found it all the time. I moored my boat in rougher conditions so it might of splashed in from the motor well. We also think the water may come in through the rudder post but never quite fiqured it out. The next biggest problem is the motor well. Any outboard you put in the get splashed constintly. My outboard age 10 years in one summer. It's a pain to put it in and take it out and it is a tight fit. The largest outboard I could squeeze in at the time I bought the boat was a 5 hp. A little underpowered fo a boat that size. I love the boat but I would try to put a mount off the transom for your outboard.
Kick down with more reports about your incredible Outlaw. I want one so bad I may end up moving to the east coast from California. MORE! MORE!
Every known picture on the internet of the Outlaw are now posted in "The Outlaw Files" photo file on the Oday Owners Yahoo Group.
We're looking for MORE pictures, MORE information, and MORE OUTLAW enthusiasts! So head on over there and post YOUR pictures in "The Outlaw Files"!
More than that, WE NEED AN OUTLAW WEBSITE! Anyone enthusiastic AND web savvy enough to want to spearhead that? Come on over to the Oday Owners Yahoo Group or contact me directly.
I'm still actively looking to buy an OUTLAW on the west coast... that, assuming there is even one over here. Any leads of a west coast OUTLAW, please, please contact me. Almost any condition is ok. As well, if you own one over on the east coast, I might be coerced into building a trailer out there and towing one back. Let me know one way or another, but I'm NOT rich, so a derelict example is likely all I'll be able to afford.
Re 1969 Outlaw
June 25, 2014: 1969 O'DAY OUTLAW FOR SALE: 1968 OUTLAW FOR SALE; A "MUST SELL" SITUATION (nothing wrong with me or the boat though). The boat IS for sale, so the "noggin" post shown immediately below is no longer accurate. Location: Northport (Long Island) New York.
So, as some of you know, the Outlaw is a classic Philip Rhodes design, built when men were men and fiberglass was fiberglass! The hull and decks are sturdy strong and stiff; they do not bend when pushed or stepped on. It was built quite deliberately with a large 8-foot cockpit, unavailable on any other Sailboat of this size (other than the Pearson Commander, I think). Constantly are people commenting on the boat's "beautiful lines" -- really -- it's like a broken record; over and over again, "What class is that? It has such beautiful lines." And, there is a good reason for it. The boat does have beautiful lines; it's a very pretty boat -- far more pretty than any other of its size.
The boat can carry three sails: a rolling reefing genoa/jib, a roller reefing foresail (that I have never used; I can't imagine why anyone every would need it). And there is, of course, the main sail. Sails are all in good condition (but they could use laundering so that they are, once again, bright white).
The cockpit is, of course, self-bailing, so that it is always dry as is every inch inside the cabin, always, because the boat has no leaks -- none -- not a one -- no leaks anywhere; I never find water in the bilge. (For that reason I have been unwilling, ever, to unscrew any object fastened to the deck or cabin-top. My experience on all other boats has been that doing so usually produces a leak when the object (or a new object) is replaced -- no matter what kind of caulking or water-proofing "gook" I use when installing the new piece).
The vessel's engine has all the advantages of an inboard and none of the disadvantages. In a properly vented inboard well (hard to find these days), there sits a 9.9 hp Evinrude (2 cycle, in perfect working order). Hence, the engine does not show; one can't see it. It starts electrically by the turn of a key (and, if necessary, it's easily startable by hand as well). Key, shift, and throttle controls are in the cockpit as they should be on any self-respecting sailboat (and as (a) they always are for sailboats with inboard engines and (b) they never are on sailboats powered by outboard -- except for this one. Hence, the engine appears (meaning it does not appear) and operates as does an inboard sailboat engine. On the other hand, it is easily accessible and easily removable (for winter storage).
Furthermore no other O'Day Outlaw will accept a 9.9 HP engine because, as originally built, the engine well was too small to accommodate the lower unit of an engine that size. I have had the well modified/widened up so that it does accept the 9.9. (The boat was designed to accommodate something akin to a 6 hp Johnson "sail master." When power is needed the difference between the 6 hp and the 9.9 is significant.)
In the port cockpit locker are TWO batteries connected in parallel and a built-in Guest charger. The engine, of course, charges the batteries when running and when docked, connection to shore outlet powers the charger which, in turn, keeps the batteries charged. The shore power also provides 110 volt electricity throughout the vessel. In the cockpit, too, is a twelve volt outlet so that any 12-volt device can be "plugged in" right there in the pocket. That might be a cell phone (for charging), an enormously powerful spotlight (for night sailing made, say, from an automobile headlight) a music system -- or any other 12-volt device.
In the engine compartment are two six-gallon fuel tanks, which I refill once every five years or so. (Although I have not made the test, if one of the tanks is removed, the compartment might accommodate a gasoline-operated 110 volt generator (1KW probably), so that 110V would be available even at anchor.)
There are two sets of cabin doors; one is a one-piece door (the one I use) newly made, but because I have used it for two years, it needs some sanding and varnishing to make it look perfect. The other set of cabin doors embodies four pieces -- newly made, never used.
Inside the cabin are the usual: two quarter births and one V-berth forward; sink, pump-faucet, ice box and head.
The boat comes with: (a) a 25 pound danforth anchor fastened forward, attached to 400 feet of anchor line that descends downward through the ordinary opening so that it is stored below and easily raised up when the anchor is used; (b) a large number of ropes/lines, thick, thin, short, long, (c) life jackets (of course), (d) bilge pump (never used, except when washing the inside of the cabin so that water does, then, fall into the bilge), (e) cockpit cushions, and (f) a basic set of tools.
The "negatives:" (1) The cockpit combing (teak) and the rub rail (teak) need light sanding plus teak oil, although that is a cosmetic issue only. (2) The bunks need bunk cushions as well (about $500);. (3) The cabin does not have standing headroom (because of the large cockpit) so that adults must hunch over a little when attempting to stand; and (4) The vessel retains an old-style built-in marine head working perfectly, but highly illegal. It should be replaced with a self-contained one-unit head/sanitizer/holding tank, or the ordinary modern-day head with separate holding tank. The head is located at the center of the V-birth and is not enclosed except, of course, that one can close the cabin door and lock it from the inside, so that the whole cabin becomes, in effect, a closed head. However, a true enclosure for the head can be installed with relative ease.
The boat was just recently hauled and uncovered so that the buyer may see and inspect the bottom. The new owner need only have the bottom painted ($475 including paint) and have the boat launched (no cost). (Once the new owner takes title, then for so long as the boat is not launched continued storage on land will cost $200 per month.)
THE PRICE, TODAY (JUNE 25, 2014) IS $2,500. IT DROPS BY $100 ON MONDAY, 29 AND BY ANOTHER $100 EVERY MONDAY THEREAFTER UNTIL SOLD. FOR PICTURES AND MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT ME AT: 631-630-6274
I am considering grabbing a 1968 Outlaw that is in shambles and rebuild her. She is actually #2 behind a very nice '74 Seafarer 24 that I am 2nd in line for. this Outlaw has been very neglected and allowed inches worth of standing water to sit in the salon. Needless-to-say, she is in very bad shape but something about her style draws me to her!
BTW - The above mentioned Outlaw is no longer for sale. Taslawmed decided to keep her!!
I'm in the market for boat and have been perusing Craigslist ads within 5 hours drive of me. Found this in Seattle, and while looking up info on it saw that a couple of you guys are drooling quite heavily. If anyone reading this is still jonesing for an Outlaw there's one available...
1965 O'day outlaw sailboat
If you don't have these pictures, you are welcome to use them.
OUTLAW 26 (O'DAY ) Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com
Just FYI, I own the 1965 outlaw in Seattle. Im still looking to sell it, but its not really a great market for selling sailboats.
I also have water collecting in the compartment under the outboard well. I put in two access hatches to let it breathe when it wasn't in use, but that didn't solve it. Now I've drilled a hole in the bulkhead in the very bottom to allow the water in that compartment to drain out into the compartment under the **** pit. Once it drys out, Im going to pour in some epoxy to make sure all the nooks and crannys are filled in so water will stop collecting back there. If I dont do anything about it, I'll have to replace that bulkhead. Something I dont want to do.
Hello fellow Outlaw drivers! Indeed, I found my Outlaw, a fine example from Marta's Vineyard, and lucky for me, found in Olympia Washington. That said, it appears that there are at least TWO examples of the Outlaw on the west coast, however PLEASE ADVISE if you have seen, heard of, or have any evidence of any other example on the west coast. Interesting reading about the issues you other owners are having, I too, have a difficult to contain minimal and mysterious leakage in the aft lockers, otherwise, she is a dry boat. I'm proud to be caring for hull number 55, and prouder still that I've located all but one owner all the way back to the new purchase in 1967 from Milford Boat Works in Connecticut. She is "Renegade", and sitting pretty in Sausalito right now.
Any other Outlaw people out there?
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