Global Warming Debate

[sailaway21]

Originally Posted by DePlano

Washington Post

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that global climate change will worsen food shortages and disease exposure in sub-Saharan Africa over the next two decades, creating operational problems for the Pentagon's newest overseas military command.

Actually the US intelligence agencies have done nothing of the sort.

They have evaluated how the obligations of the US military will be affected if the climate changes. They have not done any unique or original research into whether the climate is changing, they've merely prepared a briefing for the Congress on how a potential climate change might effect their resources.

[sailaway21]

On a lighter note.
The Japanese face some difficult tasks in meeting Kyoto, some rather unique.
Secret Planet Killer: High-Tech Japanese Toilets

[knothead]

Originally Posted by sailaway21

On a lighter note.
The Japanese face some difficult tasks in meeting Kyoto, some rather unique.

highfalutin' toilets, which warm, wash, blow dry and deodorize your bum


I want one. Are they here yet?

[Valiente]

http://www.noonsite.com/Members/sue/R2008-06-29-1

Santa, get the hell out of the way! We've got an oil platform scheduled for this spot! Yee-HAW!

[sailaway21]

I heard that report also, Val. Except I also heard that the ice this year is substantially thicker than it was at the same time last year. I'd hold off on lading the boat or, at least, not jettison the reindeer yet!

[camaraderie]

More tripe. Here's the ACTUAL sea ice data graph for the last year.

The START of the graph is lower than the END of the graph (today) so there was LESS ice at this time last year. The reason there is so much ONE year sea ice was because there was so much MELT last year....DUH!! (And the melt was officially caused by a cyclical change in ocean currents bringing more warm water to the arctic. Or maybe it was those pesky underwater volcanoe eruptions they discoverd a few weeks ago where scientists said they couldn't occur. Whatever!) Point is...there is MORE not LESS ice this year than last year and it is COLDER.

[sailaway21]

Good job, Cam. Same type of stuff as the poor polar bears that ain't dyin' but once it's out there, in an appropriately short sound bite, it becomes "common knowledge".

[sailaway21]

A pretty good summation of GW and it's proponents.
Global View - WSJ.com

[camaraderie]

Good analysis in that artice Sway. My favorite line is one that has been expressed here before:
"If even slight global cooling remains evidence of global warming, what isn't evidence of global warming? "

[RAGNAR]

Another good article on "GW":

Some greens openly admit they are on the side of illiberalism. George Monbiot describes environmentalism as "a campaign not for more freedom but for less". Environmentalism is instinctively and relentlessly illiberal, and it is doing more to inculcate people with fear, self-loathing and a religious-style sense of meekness than any piece of anti-terror legislation ever could. If you believe in freedom, you must reject it.

Brendan O'Neill: Greens are the enemies of liberty | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk