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You may want to go back to Dave's site, I don't think reading is your issue though.
If you would bother, starting from post #1 (and the links), you will get an education.

The stuff you have posted by copy and paste without links has been posted before and proven to be either gross inflations or outright fabrications and thus false. If you bother to invest the effort you will see you are referring to peoples models for the most part, and not measurements. A couple of movies and blogs do not facts make.

Like someone said, the climate is changing. It always has and always will. Are we the reason, is this topic.

One example for you is a link to an exhaustive study of the location, accuracy, and maintenance of temperature recording equipment. I hope you can come across it because it does not take an IQ much over 65 to realize that if it is inaccurate to begin with and is now surrounded by concrete and buildings the temperatures recorded might not be quite right. Maybe someone will provide the link again and you will take the time to read it and offer comment on that particular bit of research. It will take a lot of time and it is just one little dot on the whole page of the subject.

But I am wasting my electronic ink because you have already shown us all, here and elsewhere, what you are like and the way you reach your conclusions.
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The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.
Google "Little Ice Age". It ended around 1850.

Google "Medieval warm period". Evidence indicates it was warmer back then and it was a period of prosperity.

Reconstructed ice core data indicates we've had warmer periods and colder periods than today's climate. The one constant, is that it's not constant.

As already indicated, IPCC data has been discredited.
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you will do what you are told and it's already happened.
Yep, that's the way the far left wants it, regardless of the FACTS
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I love facts. Here's some more, many of which most of us know already.

Global Warming in North America
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Hey Greg...here's your facts!


The teacher will be around to pick up your copy of the Sierra Club Weekly Reader shortly.
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Oh my God! So GW is caused by cows, not man. Now that we know, we can pass a bunch of laws restricting the sale of any form of ignition to any bovine or related species. We should also tax the hell out of the whole dairy, and beef industry as well as requiring the installation of methane filters on all producers ( individual anally inserted gas scrubbers). We should call this environmental endeavor FART, for Flatulence Avoidance Regulatory Team. Praise be, the Earth is saved! (thanks to Cam)
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I just try to do my part for the Earth goddess.

"More than a third of all methane emissions in the UK is produced by farm animals. By volume, methane is 20 times more powerful at trapping solar energy than carbon dioxide making it a potent greenhouse gas."

If you believe in global warming...you'd better be a Vegan...They are coming for your rib eye steak next!
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On a more serious note:

Big version here: http://www.cato.org/special/climatec...to_climate.pdf
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On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.
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David Archibald's latest review of solar activity and climate impacts concludes in part:
"5. LONG TERM CORRELATION OF SOLAR ACTIVITY WITH CLIMATE
The aa Index is a geomagnetic activity index which is driven by the solar coronal
magnetic field strength. There are now 140 years of aa Index data, shown in Figure 9.
The strength of the solar coronal magnetic field doubled over the 20th century. At the
same time, the Earth came out of the Little Ice Age. The 1970s cooling period, during
Solar Cycle 20, was associated with a weak aa Index. During the current solar
minimum, the aa Index is likely to fall to levels last seen in the late 19th century.
Figure 10 shows an incontrovertible association between solar activity and climate.
The spikes in Be10 concentration coincide with the cold periods in Earth’s history for
the last 600 years. All the major climate minima are evident in the Be10 record,
including the cold period at the end of the 19th century. What is also evident is that
Be10 levels started falling away dramatically at the beginning of the Modern Warm
Period, consistent with the warming of the 20th century being solar-driven.

6. PAST AND FUTURE WARMING FROM ANTHROPOGENIC CO2
Archibald (2007) illustrated the logarithmic warming effect of carbon dioxide. The
first 20 ppm of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has a greater warming effect than the
following 400 ppm (Figure 11). The increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide
concentration from the pre-industrial level of 280 ppm to the current level of 384 ppm
is calculated to have resulted in a 0.1° C rise in atmospheric temperature. If the
atmospheric carbon dioxide level increases to 600 ppm, a further 0.3° C increase in
temperature is projected due to this factor.
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The full paper is worth the reading and available here:
http://www.davidarchibald.info/paper...ald2009E&E.pdf
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