Global Warming Debate

[Yamsailor]

Scottyt

People who say global warming has nothing to do with humans also have a vested interest--their wallet. Most if not all of the people who say humans are not having a significant impact, or any impact for that matter, really care more about their pocket books than the earths well being. Of course that also means they care more about money than they do about peoples health.

Bottom line---people on each side of the debate care more about their pocket books and egos rather than actually caring about their fellow man--sad really.

[smackdaddy]

Originally Posted by scottyt

...but where the real problem comes in is. the people pushing green stuff have a vested future, both in money invested and jobs.

Wait - this is silly. Is this a freakin' conservative argument AGAINST the green whackos? Money and jobs as a lefty vested agenda? Are you serious? Right - let's fight against green technology because those chumps have a vested interest and want to create jobs and money. Whatever.

Rush L. disputes the fact that man causes GW. Why? Is the above his reasoning too?

I'm with Yam. It's happening. Flatworlders can argue 'till they're blue in the face - and really sweaty because of the heat - but the ice is still melting.

It definitely couldn't hurt for everyone to try to quit spewing so much crap into the sky. Really.

Disclaimer - I'm driving my Hummer to work tomorrow with the AC on Blast. You guys are the ones that need to shape up. Not me.

[Yamsailor]

Jackdale--

I do agree with you that humans have an affect on the earth--especially with global climate; however, most of the public attention focuses on the extreme sides of the issue. The conservatives don't want to admit humans have an impact on the earth and therefore there is no reason to spend monetary resources on something humans don't effect; and the liberals are more concerned about convincing others they are right instead of trying to find systemic changes on how we live that are cost-effective (note here I did not say cheap.)

It is a reflection of the times we live in--people are really very greedy in their own ways. Helk, pissing in the lake from which your draw your drinking water and catch your fish doesn't matter because it costs too much to build and operate the treatment plant; and trying to prove to others that pissing in your lake significantly adds toxins to your water and fish is more important than actually providing people with a safe place to piss somewhere.

We as a society have become so interested in ourselves that we have lost our ability to build a productive and healthy future.

BTW--I happen to agree with alot of what Thomas Friedman wrote in his book about the earth being Hot, Flat and Crowded.

[erps]

They're thinking that global warming is going to cause N. American cooling.

Global warming could actually chill down North America within just a few decades, according to a new study that says a sudden cooling event gripped the region about 8,300 years ago.

Global Warming Could Cool N. America in a Few Decades?

Seems that that the climate change guys have their bases pretty well covered. If it warms here, it's because of warming. If it cools here, it's because of warming.

[ssneade]

so what if it is? what are you gonna do? i suggest shoving a catalytic converter up your ass, therefore reducing emissions that much more. in fact, we can shove them up every living beings ass and that will greatly reduce pollutants being released into the atmosphere....

nothing we do is gonna stop a natural cycle, no matter how great we think mankind and our technology is....

is man causing global warming? who really knows. i think we need to look at this in a more positive manner. rising sea levels mean deeper channels, meaning less dredging, meaning less emissions, meaning a reduction in the warming process, right?....

[therapy23]

Originally Posted by erps

They're thinking that global warming is going to cause N. American cooling.



Global Warming Could Cool N. America in a Few Decades?

Seems that that the climate change guys have their bases pretty well covered. If it warms here, it's because of warming. If it cools here, it's because of warming.

Just proves it is a racket.

What a bunch of F**k**g A**h***s.

Yes, that is how I feel about it all.

Just want to scream.........and yell and hit and kick and bite and .........shoot.

[kootenay]

The article makes a great deal of sense in many respects. It is talking about the impact on ocean currents when fresh water melt interferes with currents. It also states that the effect could be localized to a degree. It doesnt talk about the impact on sea level rise. 20+ feet would certainly change things.

I dont doubt the impact of man on his enviroment. It simply has to have an effect. To what degree can we reduce the impact? I dont know but to some degree we certainly can reduce the impact. I know the ag sector is trying to reduce that impact. We are moving to Integrated Pest management practices, everyone is at least beginning the process. On our farm we have reduced inputs 30% in the past three years. If you dont do it to reduce GW its worth it alone to reduce costs. I think many of us will find exactly the same benefit to change. Even if we dont have a positive impact on GW its saves money which in and of itself is a damn good reason for action.

[therapy23]

Hey you all.

Check this one out.

http://geologymaster.com/QBOF240809.wmv

Article; GEOLOGYMASTER

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by therapy23

Hey you all.

Check this one out.

http://geologymaster.com/QBOF240809.wmv

Article; GEOLOGYMASTER

OK - so who is this guy. I can find no references / links to his work.

[ssneade]

hiya, jack. been doin' well? i heard yer glacier isn't receeding, it's migrating............

nov55.com/oceans.html