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Stu - My fault, I assumed you were aware I was referring to Al Gore and the IPCC as the recipients of this years peace prize, as that is the only thing that makes my comment germaine.
Of course, a cogent response to the last question of my post would have been far more helpful, than the insinuation I didn't know there were other Nobels beside for peace.
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Stu - My fault, I assumed you were aware I was referring to Al Gore and the IPCC as the recipients of this years peace prize, as that is the only thing that makes my comment germaine.
Of course, a cogent response to the last question of my post would have been far more helpful, than the insinuation I didn't know there were other Nobels beside for peace.
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No, I misunderstood you. For all I knew, you didn't know there existed NP's for science. I apologize for guessing your ignorance.
So you're asking why Al Gore didn't win a Nobel Prize for science. Easy. He's not a scientist, and hasn't done any science. NPP is a political prize. I guess he won for raising awareness or something (I didn't see his movie).
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All this talk is to smart for me. I do know HOG . . . you won that pole vault by a hanging chad therefore you really aren't legitimate! I looked it up on some dudes website.
So There!
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You seem to have a penchant for assuming a lack of intelligence in others Stu. And, you don't have to be an accredited scientist to win a science prize. The point of the comment was that a supposedly scientific effort recieved a peace rather than science prize. I wasn't asking why Gore didn't win a science prize, I was illustrating the politics inherent in it.
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Go do a meta study, and have it stand up to scientific scrutiny. I need more quantified details than you give.
1. HOW MUCH has the temperature been rising over the "last few thousand years"? WHY?
2. Who is "they", and reference "their" published results.
3. HOW MUCH CH4 is released by WHAT TEMPERATURE rise? Reference the published study.
4. Your conclusion is you own opinion, as best I can tell. You're not a climate scientist, as far as I know.
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1. 0.01% rise mostly caused by solor flares and sun spots
2. Dr Kai-Uwe Hinrichs and WHOI
3. What was released was 90 million tons (est), not by temp but by possible undersea landslide, dosen't matter how it was released, the effect is still the same, higher global temps
4. You are correct about it being my opinion, as best you can tell and I'm not a climate scientist, as far as you know
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Stu...
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First, you have to do better than a link to some dude's website.
Second, over geologic times, the configuration of the continents is the primary indicator of temperature. Yes, we know that. We're not talking about geologic time scales. Do a bit of research on glacial/interglacial cycles, what drives them, then get back to me. This info is well known, and easily available. You can probably find a good (first order) synopsis on wikipedia for that matter.
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Stu. Don't keep directing me to some "dude's" website. I want to know from you. What was the level of atmospheric CO2 during the carboniferous period?
Maybe it was 17 time what it is today? What do you know of it? Was it?
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I was thinking earlier about all the light bulbs in our house that we switched for curly cues. All but the ones in the Master bathroom. That got me to thinking about all of the money being made by companies trying to turn me green. I guess I’ve forgotten about the business angle to GW.
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You seem to have a penchant for assuming a lack of intelligence in others Stu. And, you don't have to be an accredited scientist to win a science prize. The point of the comment was that a supposedly scientific effort recieved a peace rather than science prize. I wasn't asking why Gore didn't win a science prize, I was illustrating the politics inherent in it.
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Al Gore's effort wasn't scientific. As far as I know, he didn't publish any new science. Again, I didn't see his movie, so I don't know. I just know that I haven't read any scientific articles with his name on them.
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Stu...
You said....
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First, you have to do better than a link to some dude's website.
Second, over geologic times, the configuration of the continents is the primary indicator of temperature. Yes, we know that. We're not talking about geologic time scales. Do a bit of research on glacial/interglacial cycles, what drives them, then get back to me. This info is well known, and easily available. You can probably find a good (first order) synopsis on wikipedia for that matter.
...unquote.
Stu. Don't keep directing me to some "dude's" website. I want to know from you. What was the level of atmospheric CO2 during the carboniferous period?
Maybe it was 17 time what it is today? What do you know of it? Was it?
Rockter.
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? I'm not directing you to some "dude's" website. I don't know what the CO2 levels were 300 million years ago. It's irrelevant. Climate over geologic times is dominated by continent configuration. This is irrelevant on the time scales (thousands of years) we're considering. You need to study glacial/interglacial cycles.
This is now at least the THIRD time I've written this.
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Does that mean we should be posting in the Solar and Wind thread?? 
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I think so but Sway might have a fit.
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