Global Warming Debate

[sailaway21]

It is interesting that jody chooses to bring up AIDS in support of his point. he seems to want to claim that "awareness" is the reason that the dreaded outbreak of heterosexual AIDS did not occur. The actual facts are that, after trillions of dollars spent in a panic on AIDS research, it's been found that AIDS is almost never transmitted heterosexually even between unprotected partners. (One might investigate Michael Fumento's "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS: How a tragedy has been distorted by the Media and Partisan Politics" which the NY Times reviewed by saying, "the arguments, statistics, and perceptions he addresses to support his position appear almost as irrefutable as they are controversial". 1990, Regnery Press)

Does jody recognize the same impulses in the GW controversy? We, as yet, are not nearly fully informed, but there is no time for that, action is required now. And that's how this country went about spending more on AIDS research than all forms of cancer combined. It was a "crisis". We, the people, are getting the hard sell here. You ever have a technician over to look at something in your house and all he wants to do is to sell you a new one? Discussion of fixing the old one is not even considered. That's the hard sell and people, rightly, resist it until they have more facts.

[sailaway21]

Here's the latest "indoctrination" on global warming to take place. it cannot be called education because education implies the inculcation of fundamental truthes and is generally taught by someone with some expertise in the field being taught. As a certain radio personality might say, this is what young skulls full of mush are being filled with.
http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw...d=105203212008

[camaraderie]

More NEW Global Un-Warming News:

Sun's low magnetic activity may portend an ice age

The Canadian Space Agency’s radio telescope has been reporting Flux Density Values so low they will mean a mini ice age if they continue.
Like the number of sunspots, the Flux Density Values reflect the Sun’s magnetic activity, which affects the rate at which the Sun radiates energy and warmth. CSA project director Ken Tapping calls the radio telescope that supplies NASA and the rest of the world with daily values of the Sun’s magnetic activity a “stethoscope on the Sun”. In this case, however, it is the “doctor” whose health is directly affected by the readings.
This is because when the magnetic activity is low, the Sun is dimmer, and puts out less radiant warmth. If the Sun goes into dim mode, as it has in the past, the Earth gets much colder.
Full story and data here:
http://www.britsattheirbest.com/001645.php

[sailaway21]

In the above article I particularly like the portion about bamboo flooring becasue it's more environmentally sustainable. The pinhead teaching the class might be stunned to learn that there are more trees today than when the Pilgrims landed. This "expert" teaches interior design. Notice once again how "the movement" is "indoctrinating" the young. There is little that Lenin would not recognize nor disapprove of in that.

[chucklesR]

Sway, not disagreeing, but who counted trees before the pilgrims landed - or is that the same kind of statistically based guess as the temperature in 1850. One can not have ones cake and eat it too.

[sailaway21]

No, chukles, it's based on the fact that we now grow trees where none were grown and that we no longer allow wildfires to run unabated.

[camaraderie]

Any data on the Amazon...rainforest cutting? What is status there as all I've heard is massive deforestation?

[sailaway21]

I was referring to the US, Cam. It's a US problem, don'tcha know. (g)

[chucklesR]

Sorry, but correct me where I'm wrong, you ping on others for mixing facts and truth with ancedotal evidence, then don't you think you should not - and again, sorry, but your estimate of trees growth based on
"No, chukles, it's based on the fact that we now grow trees where none were grown and that we no longer allow wildfires to run unabated"

is certainly andectoal (i.e., there is no evidence, it's based solely on an opinion and has no factual basis).

Again, not disagreeing, just pointing out a double standard is being applied - at least in my opinion, on this point in the overall debate.

[PBzeer]

Chuckles - I believe they are using the amount of square footage under forestation as the methodology for estimating the number of trees, past and present.