Global Warming Debate

[HoffaLives]

edited by CAM...this thread has been moved to "Off topic" for Global warming discussion.

[Sailormann]

Edited for relevancy......Hence - the smile is due to two things we really can't do much about....the weather and the Americans

Always happy to help !

[camaraderie]

But you canucks (note fond usage of term! ) kept telling us we CAN change the weather and to sign the Kyoto accord! Glad to see you've come around on that one!!

[RAGNAR]

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[Sailormann]

Until I see a causal explanation for an evidentiary trend that takes the planet's entire geological history into account, I attribute this latest version of the falling sky to the disaster that is the West's intellectual class.

Well Rags (if I may be so familiar), I don't think that anyone is going to sit you down at Starbucks and give you the personalised dog and pony show, but the evidence is there if you want to read it. It takes a bit of effort, but even discounting the more extreme fear-mongering, there's no debating that something is going on. We really notice it up here.

And Cam - as far as Kyoto goes, there was a law passed a few weeks ago here, that basically binds the government to meeet the targets...as impossible as that is. A grandstanding gesture to be sure, but it's (Global Warming) the primary voter concern in this country.

For me, it's one of those conscience things. I'll be long gone before there are palm trees in Toronto, but I feel like I have a duty to do my small part. I'm not suggesting we should try to start a compost heap on the boat or anything, but I think seriously about getting one of them there newfangled hybrid cars...had a hybrid dog once and it worked out real well ...

[gilsurf]

Edited..... Though a good tangent for all to consider, not just sailors who save energy by moving about using petroleum based hulls and sails ;-)

That said, whether one agrees with the issue of global warming and its roots in our society or not, a decrease in the production of 'greenhouse' gases is not a bad thing. Cleaner air, more efficient energy, less focus on fuel supply, etc. Even to a complete naysayer to science, the benefits are not all that bad.

An interesting note: A study recently published in Science (or was it nature?) did a review of ALL scientific papers that focusing on global warming published in the last 10 (#?) years and newspaper articles focusing on the same (big names like NYT, WP, etc.). They took a random sample of 1000 reserach papers and found that ALL supported the hypotesis that global warming is caused by the release of 'greenhouse' gases. Then they took a random sample of newspeper articles and found that nearly half presented the idea that global warming may not be caused by human actions. And I wonder which papers have a larger readership?

The weather is changing. Why? Many reasons, but it IS changing.

So go buy a boat, make it a yacht and sail to where the weather suits you :-)

[sailingdog]

And if you have a boat...the increasing water depth just means you have more places you can sail...

[RAGNAR]

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[RAGNAR]

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[camaraderie]

OK...thread moved. Have at it. We've got a lot of Global Warming stuff in various threads all over the place. Anyone that wants to copy a prior post of theirs and move it over is welcome to do so.