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Angry Just in time for tax season

Whenever I read stories about the $1M washer, $500 Hammer, taxes spent on this and that and everything else my head wants to explode. This morning I read a story about some really idiotic earmarks for military equipment that the military sees as unusable. The best (worst) part of the story is how members of congress continue to earmark these items year after year.

This thread isn't to discuss how to change it, who dunnit, etc etc. I don't care whose administration was in power at the time, what judge ruled one way or the other, or why this system is better or worse than the system of another country. I just want to post articles giving examples of insane overspending of our tax dollars. I wonder how many billions of dollars we can find spent on nothing, the billions that are taken from we the people. I wonder how much less our taxes would be, and how much we could use that saved money to stimulate the economy. Wouldn't that be more of a free market?

Here is an earmark article I read today
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...actory14m.html

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Don Young, the father of "The Bridge to Nowhere" (320 million) is in trouble for his earmark for a 10 million dollar highway project in Florida.

http://alaskareport.com/alaska10072.htm

http://www.alaskareport.com/news/z46...ng_trouble.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge

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That's unbelievable...
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Sapper,
Great idea and excellent thorough reporting by the Seattle Times.
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Sapper, I know this isn't supposed to be about how to change it, but this topic is a senstive one for me, so I can't resist venting.

I have been arguing for many years (but nobody listens ) that the President should issue an Executive Order directing federal employees NOT to implement earmarks that are contained in any report language accompanying the actual legislation. In other words, unless an earmark is expressly written into the legislation that the President signs, it should be ignored.

As it stands, the Committee and personal staff in Congress badger the federal employees to implement all the obscure earmarks that are advocated by lobbyists and inserted/buried in committee and conference reports accompanying the legislation. They use the implicit threat of retaliation (in the next funding cycle) to get the earmarks implemented.

The funny thing about earmarks is that they generally do not provide additional funding to the Agency or Department. Any money spent on earmarks is money that can't go to the Agency's priority programs.

There may be hope, though. In his State of the Union address on Monday night, President Bush seemed to indicate that he might do exactly what I suggested above in the coming budget cycle. This would finally take the onus off the federal employees who have to continually deal with the lobbyists and congressional strong-arming. They would be able to respond by citing the E.O. prohibiting them from implementing the obscure earmarks.
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Holy Mackeral!

I just went over to the White House website because I wanted to make sure I understood correctly what the President said in the S.O.T.U. address. I was going to place an excerpt from the transcript here.

It turns out he issued the E.O. yesterday!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0080129-3.html

Text of Executive Order: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0080129-5.html

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Say what you will about Bush, I'm impressed with that one. Good post John.

By the way, if you don't posted at least one in this thread, you just don't get it, and you should take a second look at your W2.

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Great thread. Looks like we'll make some progress for 10 months or so. The text of the order Bush signed is fascinating!
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The facscinating part to me is that it's lawyer speak for 'do nothing different that you are currently doing'
I'm a bit of cynic but doesn't "
For appropriations laws and other legislation enacted after the date of this order, executive agencies should not commit, obligate, or expend funds on the basis of earmarks included in any non-statutory source, including requests in reports of committees of the Congress or other congressional documents, or communications from or on behalf of Members of Congress, or any other non-statutory source, except when required by law or when an agency has itself determined a project, program, activity, grant, or other transaction to have merit under statutory criteria or other merit-based decisionmaking.
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When the appropriations bills are signed into law with the earmarks (which he could line item out) don't they have to send and spend the money because now it's a law?
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