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With all due respect, a person who declares themself to be a Republican/Libertarian with the intensions of voting for McCain has one of three conditions; cognitive dissonance, a lack of understanding of what the Republican or Libertarian parties and ethos are, or no idea of the politics of John McCain.

For the record; John McCain is a genuine war hero who was apparently not a very good pilot, the plane shot down in VietNam hardly being the first he'd put on the ground, a poor student at best at the US Naval Academy, his very admission suspected of being the result of long-standing Navy nepotism, and a singularly undistinguished Senator with a record of disasterous legislative votes both for the country and his party. He's widely regarded as not being an overly deep or principled thinker and he couples that with a short temper.

In retrospect, he was correct in seeing the need for a larger military force in Iraq. but this hardly makes him a military strategist on the order of General Petraeus. Petraeus success has less to do with numbers than it does to do with military strategy, a subject McCain probably slept through at Annapolis.

I will not vote for McCain under any circumstances, preferring the disaster of a second Clinton presidency. I believe that it will be easier to dispose of a President Clinton in 2012 than it will be to undo the damage that a McCain presidency would do to conservatism and the Republican party.
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With all due respect, a person who declares themself to be a Republican/Libertarian with the intensions of voting for McCain has one of three conditions; cognitive dissonance, a lack of understanding of what the Republican or Libertarian parties and ethos are, or no idea of the politics of John McCain.

For the record; John McCain is a genuine war hero who was apparently not a very good pilot, the plane shot down in VietNam hardly being the first he'd put on the ground, a poor student at best at the US Naval Academy, his very admission suspected of being the result of long-standing Navy nepotism, and a singularly undistinguished Senator with a record of disasterous legislative votes both for the country and his party. He's widely regarded as not being an overly deep or principled thinker and he couples that with a short temper.

In retrospect, he was correct in seeing the need for a larger military force in Iraq. but this hardly makes him a military strategist on the order of General Petraeus. Petraeus success has less to do with numbers than it does to do with military strategy, a subject McCain probably slept through at Annapolis.

I will not vote for McCain under any circumstances, preferring the disaster of a second Clinton presidency. I believe that it will be easier to dispose of a President Clinton in 2012 than it will be to undo the damage that a McCain presidency would do to conservatism and the Republican party.
Ahhh...but no matter how bad he may be.....the standards are pretty low now aren't they????
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How about we send Hillary to Portugal, herring breath? (g)
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With all due respect, a person who declares themself to be a Republican/Libertarian with the intensions of voting for McCain has one of three conditions; cognitive dissonance, a lack of understanding of what the Republican or Libertarian parties and ethos are, or no idea of the politics of John McCain.

For the record; John McCain is a genuine war hero who was apparently not a very good pilot, the plane shot down in VietNam hardly being the first he'd put on the ground, a poor student at best at the US Naval Academy, his very admission suspected of being the result of long-standing Navy nepotism, and a singularly undistinguished Senator with a record of disasterous legislative votes both for the country and his party. He's widely regarded as not being an overly deep or principled thinker and he couples that with a short temper.

In retrospect, he was correct in seeing the need for a larger military force in Iraq. but this hardly makes him a military strategist on the order of General Petraeus. Petraeus success has less to do with numbers than it does to do with military strategy, a subject McCain probably slept through at Annapolis.

I will not vote for McCain under any circumstances, preferring the disaster of a second Clinton presidency. I believe that it will be easier to dispose of a President Clinton in 2012 than it will be to undo the damage that a McCain presidency would do to conservatism and the Republican party.
I really don't understand how you could accept 12 yeras of Hillary.

Would you rather hit an object in the water that put a hole in your hull that you can somewhat manage or get hit by a freighter? Both bad but one is a hxxx of a lot better than the other.
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How about we send Hillary to Portugal, herring breath? (g)
What for???? do you think she knows where Portugal is???

She probably thinks Portugal is a delicatessen....

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How about we send Hillary to Portugal, herring breath? (g)
Nahhh... forget about her and lets bring a certain Portagee to the white house.... ALEX FOR PRESIDENT!!!
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I'm not sure where slipkiller get's 12 years of Hillary, although I'm willing to admit she's fully capable of making 4 years seem like 12! I wouldn't vote for Hillary but I also hardly see her, if elected, as more than a one term president and that takes us to 2012. Remember we had to have a Carter before we could have a Reagan. Liberal republicans are the equivalent of the mange on dogs. Sometimes you can't treat the disease and you've got to put the dog down. There is no point in being a Republican if the party merely stands for Democrat-Lite. What sense is there in running on, we'll give you the same as the Dems, just less of it? If I wanted what the Dems were offering I'd vote for a Democrat. and just about the last thing I need right now is a bunch of coconuts proclaiming they are conservative republicans when they're anything but. These people, and their canidates, will do to the Republican party what was done to the Democrat party in the 1960's. Reagan said he did not leave the Democrat party, it left him. The same can happen to the Republican party if it abandons conservatism.
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