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[bwalker42]

Originally Posted by bwalker42

I read an article this am about a man who was denied a liver transplant because he smoked medical marijuana to relieve liver cancer symptoms and to be able to have an appetite at all.
His stomach was so swollen, and I bet it looked like an overgrown green watermellon cuz I've seen pics. When I sliced my precious little foot on some nasty ole rebarb, I went in to get my tetanus shot, they had pics on the wall of what a body looks like when it has liver cancer.
I felt so sorry for him.
He died earlier this a m.


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what about this??

[knothead]

Originally Posted by bwalker42

what about this??

I read the same article. Very sad indeed.

I know that they deny liver transplants to people who are alcoholics even while calling alcoholism a disease.

I've heard that they transplant lungs for people who have smoked all their adult lives even though those people have been warned of the danger with every pack they bought.

Seems like it's kind of arbitrary.

[camaraderie]

Knot...supply and demand...plenty of lungs to go around not enough livers so the transplant list only includes those who have a good likelihood of longer term success. Similar restrictions apply to other organs like hearts as well.
Some say an open market in organs would provide a larger supply to meet the demand...others say only the rich would get organs. Don't know myself...but there isn't much donation going on....certainly not enough.

[bwalker42]

Does in fact dictate at what level we keep our health. Then there are those factors in which we have no controll. (Someone else prapares our food, choices may not be as plentiful. It's in the genes and shirts.)

It's my understanding that he was a musician who lived with hep c for several years. He became infected by sharing needles with friends.

I would venture to say that proper worship of God, proper diet, proper rest, and last but not least, proper exercize... his symptoms would have either dissipated or been less severe.

While lifestyle choices do in fact make that kind of contribution, I see no reason not to have mercy, or be unkind to a soul who is in fact suffering.
It's not really for us to judge, but kindness makes a difference.

[erps]

Sounds like the medical advisory board didn't take this decision lightly. According to this article, the patient was offered another chance if he enrolled in a 60 drug treatment program. The article also notes that using illicit drugs is an indicator of a "addictive personality" and that smoking marijuana after the operation puts the patient at risk of a fatal infection from molds found on tobacco and marijuana.

Local News | Medical marijuana patients denied a spot on transplant list | Seattle Times Newspaper

[bwalker42]

The Pure Food and Drug Act

Then the single law which has done the most in this country to reduce the level of drug addiction is none of the criminal laws we have ever passed. The single law that reduced drug addiction the most was the 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act.

The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 did three things:

1). It created the Food and Drug Administration in Washington that must approve all foods and drugs meant for human consumption. The very first impact of that was that the patent medicines were not approved for human consumption once they were tested.

2) The Pure Food and Drug Act said that certain drugs could only be sold on prescription.

3) The Pure Food and Drug Act, (and you know, this is still true today, go look in your medicine chest) requires that any drug that can be potentially habit-forming say so on it's label. "Warning -- May be habit forming."
The labeling requirements, the prescription requirements, and the refusal to approve the patent medicines basically put the patent medicine business out of business and reduced that dramatic source of accidental addiction. The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, not a criminal law, did more to reduce the level of addiction than any other single statute we have passed in all of the times from then to now.

[erps]

The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, not a criminal law, did more to reduce the level of addiction than any other single statute we have passed in all of the times from then to now.

so if we get street dealers to label their product as "habit forming" we'll have less addicts?

[bwalker42]

What is the iron law of Prohibitions?

Prohibitions are always enacted by US, to govern the conduct of THEM. Do you have me? Take the alcohol prohibition. Every single person who has ever written about it agrees on why it collapsed.

Large numbers of people supported the idea of prohibition who were not themselves, opposed to drinking.
Do you have me? What? The right answer to that one is Huh? Want to hear it again?

Large numbers of people supported the idea of prohibition who were not themselves, opposed to drinking. Want to see it?

Let me give you an example, 1919. You are a Republican in upstate New York. Whether you drink, or you don't, you are for the alcohol prohibition because it will close the licensed saloons in the City of New York which you view to be the corrupt patronage and power base of the Democratic Party in New York. So almost every Republican in New York was in favor of national alcohol prohibition. And, as soon as it passed, what do you think they said? "Well, what do you know? Success. Let's have a drink." That's what they thought, "let's have a drink." "Let's drink to this." A great success, you see.

Do you understand me? Huge numbers of people in this country were in favor of national alcohol prohibition who were not themselves opposed to drinking.

I just want to go back to the prohibition against the drinking of gin.
How could a country prohibit just the drinking of gin, not the drinking of anything else for forty years?

Answer:
The rich people drank whiskey and the poor people drank what?
-- gin.
Do you see it?




Legislation in action.

My complaint??? (side stepping my own topic)
Now we have a greedy bush the younger, and I am republican. I just think that the latest presidents have been more of a shame than good.
like this

"And Bill Clinton did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord.
And Georgie Bush did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord. In that he used oil at the end of his term to take money out of the hands of the poor to give to the rich. Including his own greedy little self."

But that's just my perspective.
Blonde!

[bwalker42]

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Originally Posted by erps

so if we get street dealers to label their product as "habit forming" we'll have less addicts?

erps... LM blonde arse off...~~~

It's illegal cuz you can't tax it..... Not...
The Marijuana Tax act of 1937 did just that. They made the tax so high that no body could pay it, with the exception of the wealthy. You can tax it. That's why they have the marihuana tax stamp, only they keep on denying applications. Also like Alchohol, tobaco... which are also identified as drugs... as the most addictive drugs, why are they legal??, and will they be prohibited??.
Kinda looks to me like tobacco is on it's way out the door. what next?? underground tobacco??



So now I'm really curious, even more.........

[erps]

are you curious about the ill effects of drugs?
are you curious about criminal element and their ruthless violence to protect their illicit drug smugging and distribution?
are you curious about the wasted lives of addicts?

What are you advocating?