Grand Theft Auto

[camaraderie]

Alex...don't get it. Fred is a sailor...what does he care about cars. Besides...Grand Theft Tayana58 is coming out next month!!

Seriously...that stuff is the worst of America.

[knothead]

Originally Posted by camaraderie

Seriously...that stuff is the worst of America.

Cam, I bet Alex already knows that.

[Birdface]

Late opinion getting tossed in...

I grew up on the internet, massive availability to horrible pornography and inappropriate content. Literally unlimited access to all evil information, photos, and details. Knowing it was all out there... I didn't go looking past the norm... why? Because I'm raised with ethics, morals, and respect for others.

I think a person, young or old, well raised and educated can put everything in it's proper perspective. I've met some very intelligent 12 year olds.

You can play Grand Theft Auto IV and just race cars. You can play it as a mafia game, or as a "city simulator". You can also play it and hire hookers every two blocks, pay them, kill them, rob their dead corpses and ride off. With that said it has it's rating for a reason. You should no less let a child play this game than you would sit through any R rated film with them. (Blood, Gore, Sex, Violence, clearly labeled and warned against)

You can browse the internet and learn valuable life long lessons. You can learn a life's skill like sailing or the art of re-incarnation of a dead fiberglass hull.

Or you can browse the internet and learn about building bombs from cleaning chemicals, and how to kill someone from nicotine poisoning.

Raise your kids well, with morals, and judgment.... teach them life skills and lessons.... and they'll appreciate GTA IV for it's graphical achievements, it's artificial intelligence, and the moral dilemmas it throws at the player on a minute by minute basis. It is a technical achievement in ADULT video entertainment.

No, don't show it to your kid, but if he/she comes talking about it, discuss the game's content with him/her and be sure they "get it" and then THANK them for coming to talk to you about it.

Playing devil's advocate,
Bird.

[Giulietta]

wow...thanks for inputs guys..really appreciatted...

We have decided to let the subject "sleep" or fade away, and deal with it if he comes home talking about it...

HE is normally a very obedient kid, and does as told.. he also seems to be very well collected and he may just do this:

He may well play, (I hope not and not thru me or at my house), with his buddies, but I think the kid can see reallity from fiction...so we're going to go on the fictional stuff based on real stuff...IF and only IF the subject is brought in..

I believe I have been raising Fred in such a manner that he will be able to see these things and not fall for them..

He is very positive against smoking and drugs, part because of the surroundings he strives on....but we never know..

Also remeber, he is in school from 8am till 5pm everyday..he comes home does his homeworks and studies, and plays Wii or computer games or bicycle...

Saturdays and Sundays he's sailing...so I believe a busy mind is safe, an idle brain causes trouble.

Thanks for the ideas guys...I really appreciate...we're keeping him from it for now, but should he see or talk about it...me and him will have a little talk about how he is to behave with regards to the game...he is in a helathy environment at home and in school, he will not become a criminal by watching or playing a game...we make our kids...It's what I believe...

[bestfriend]

I think that is best. I have never even met you guys, but its easy to tell that you are great parents and it will fork out for the best, whatever happens.

[sailingdog]

I think he'll be fine... he has a pretty good set of parents and a pretty good head on his shoulders..

[knothead]

Originally Posted by Giulietta

Saturdays and Sundays he's sailing...so I believe a busy mind is safe, an idle brain causes trouble.

I think it's something about " Idle hands" and " The Devils workshop" but I can't remember the whole quote.

Alex, I think your approach is pretty reasonable. Fred is going to hear about it sometime. There's no point in dealing with it until you need to.
Just don't bring it home.
If it's there, he's going to be interested in it and he's going to be asking questions about it. And you're going to have to answer them. If you don't, he will get answers without you. That's what you don't want.

I think that this is your goal; to have the kind of relationship with your son where he wants to get your answers to the hard questions of life.
Where he understands that you want to help him avoid all the things that you had to learn the hard way.

You and your wife are the only people in the world who know when Fred should be allowed to experience something as controversial as GTA.

It's pretty obvious how much you care.

I think that you and Fred are going to be fine.

[uspirate]

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oh yeah, they have very foul language, like snoop dog saying "take that mother f-er"

[sailingdog]

Hey Chuckles-

I didn't know you were in the game?

[uspirate]

Originally Posted by sailingdog

Hey Chuckles-

I didn't know you were in the game?

then you didnt read my first post on the subject did you? it has chuckles and jody
but the game is a blast to play!