Finding future terrorists

[sailaway21]

I didn't want this Washington Post article to slip by unnoticed. In detaining and fingerprinting persons of interest in Afghanistan and Iraq, the military and the FBI are discovering something interesting; they've been to the US before and appear in our criminal records. Herewith some sobering news on homeland security conducted from afar.

Post-9/11 Dragnet Turns Up Surprises

[nonsailor]

Originally Posted by sailaway21

I didn't want this Washington Post article to slip by unnoticed. In detaining and fingerprinting persons of interest in Afghanistan and Iraq, the military and the FBI are discovering something interesting; they've been to the US before and appear in our criminal records. Herewith some sobering news on homeland security conducted from afar.

Post-9/11 Dragnet Turns Up Surprises

I find it unbelievable that 1% of people fingerprinted in afganistan had committed crimes in the U.S.
They must have fingerprinted a very carefully selected group to come up with a statistic like that, one which supports their security agenda.

[chris_gee]

Perhaps this quote from the article may add something.
"Civil libertarians have raised concerns about whether people on the watch lists have been appropriately determined to be terrorists, a process that senior government officials acknowledge is an art, not a science.

Large-scale identity systems "can raise serious privacy concerns, if not singly, then jointly and severally," said a 2007 study by the Defense Science Board Task Force on Defense Biometrics. The ability "to cross reference and draw new, previously unimagined, inferences," is a boon for the government and the bane of privacy advocates, it said."
Seems like any non US citizen arrival by air now has to give their finger prints. Paranoia anyone?

[sailaway21]

Is your nom de plume nonsailor or did you misspell nonsensical?

[sailaway21]

Originally Posted by chris_gee

Seems like any non US citizen arrival by air now has to give their finger prints. Paranoia anyone?

It probably makes more sense than trying to inspect every cargo container that comes into the US. And you are ignoring the fact that, had they completed their training, the 9/11 terorist would have had to be fingerprinted for their licenses in any event.

I'm really sorry that you're worried about the rights of visitors to our country seeing as how more than a few recent ones have been not only terrorists but criminals as well.

[cardiacpaul]

ahh, the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Where else in the world can you cross a border with a visitors visa good for 3 months, stay a couple of years, get an under the table job, go to school, suck from the gov't teat, and not fear any repercussions?

Anyone with a DUI or misdeameanor possession charge from 20 yrs ago tried to get into Canada lately? Hmmm?

"I'm sorry Sir, we don't want your kind here to look at Niagra Falls, go back from whence you came, buh-bye now."

I'm all for fingerprinting everyone coming in here. I had to get mine done just to get a D/L.
Don't like it? Don't come. I don't need your drachmas.

[PBzeer]

It's nice to know there is such concern for the rights of those who have vowed to take away our rights. Heaven forbid we do anything to make it harder for them to do so.

[sailaway21]

And did you note that, finally, police will start sharing the prints of arrestees with DHS and they will determine if they're an illegal alien. If we can't get meaningful immigration reform (enforcement) or a fence built, at least we can start to deport those illegals who break our laws.

[PBzeer]

Not if they cross reference with voter's registration

[nonsailor]

Originally Posted by nonsailor

I find it unbelievable that 1% of people fingerprinted in afganistan had committed crimes in the U.S.
They must have fingerprinted a very carefully selected group to come up with a statistic like that, one which supports their security agenda.

I was right, it is a piece of scaremongering propaganda suggesting that 1% of "persons of interest" will have criminal records in the U.S.
But the only figures presented are 3800 fighters of the MEK captured, only "more than 40" had criminal records in the U.S, nothing to panic over.