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$11,680,000,000

According to a CNN report, that's how much Net Revenue Exxon-Mobil made this quarter.

Let's see. I'm paying $4.00 bucks a gallon for gas, and Exxon is making $11.68 BILLION dollars in ONE QUARTER?

What's wrong with this equation?

I'm not much into the government meddling in business, but this is just a bit much for even me to stomach.
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How much did Exxon invest to be able to make that kind of profit? How long did it take? What was their margin?? It's not always as simple as it sounds.

BTW- They are a publicly traded company. If you make an investment, like they did, some of that profit could be yours.
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That's a BILLION a week roughly.
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According to a CNN report, that's how much Net Revenue Exxon-Mobil made this quarter.

Let's see. I'm paying $4.00 bucks a gallon for gas, and Exxon is making $11.68 BILLION dollars in ONE QUARTER?

What's wrong with this equation?

I'm not much into the government meddling in business, but this is just a bit much for even me to stomach.
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See, what that really means is my (and maybe your) mutual fund is doing just fine because of Exxon - despite the fact that they only actually cleared a penny a gallon on gasoline.

I will say it's funny how the cost of a barrel in September 08 affects the price of the gallon in June 08; seems to me no one has paid a penny to anyone yet, but that's just SPECULATION on my part.
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I'm not much into the government meddling in business, but this is just a bit much for even me to stomach.
Providing there's no monopoly: I disagree.

You want fuel prices to come down? Use less fuel. That's what many USAians have finally been doing and it's actually working. Gasoline consumption is down 2.4% from this time a year ago. I say let's drive it even further down.

Combine trips. Employ at least some hyper-miling techniques. Walk or ride your bicycle for nearby visits.

As I've said many times before: As long as I still see people driving gigantic, gas-guzzling trucks, vans and SUVs with only one occupant in them, most times; people driving at 85 MPH and over in 70 MPH zones; people jack-rabbiting off of one traffic light, only to rush up to the next light and have to stop and wait for it, and people letting their vehicles idle in driveways and parking lots: Gasoline is still too cheap.

Don't even get me started on people that raise their thermostats to 75+ in the winter and lower them to 72- in the summer

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I am not crying for the oil companies but the notion that they make extraordinary profits is pretty ridiculous. Exxon made 40 billion last year, so this 11 billion$ quarter is pretty much in line. Now lets take a look at the top ten most profitable industries in 2007 from Fortune mag:
1 Network and Other Communications Equipment 13.9
2 Medical Products and Equipment 12.1
3 Oil and Gas Equipment, Services 11.0
4 Household and Personal Products 10.4
5 Food Services 10.4
6 Pharmaceuticals 9.1
7 Specialty Retailers 8.5
8 Wholesalers: Diversified 8.4
9 Petroleum Refining 8.3
10 Mining, Crude-Oil Production 7.8


See that...petroleum refining and production came in at nine and ten so you get screwed over more by a lot of other industries.
Exxon's profit as a % of sales is what counts not how many billions it makes which is only a measure of scale. Their current quarter was 8.4% of sales. A HUGE drop in % of profit from last year. The stock FELL on the announcement as it was 30 cents short of analysts estimated profit. So much of the crappy headlines we read are just sensationalism with no factual underpinning. Want someone to REALLY blame for oil prices? Look at ourselves and our government. We did nothing to improve our dependence over the last 30 years and now we are paying the price. We'll be paying $10 a gallon once China and India really get going.
Semi...I agree in principle with doing what we can to reduce OUR usage but with demand from India and China growing at nearly 20% a year and world wide demand increasing with population growth...there is no doubt that future demand will continue to be greater and we can expect to see higher prices as a result.
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Exxon Mobil Corp.’s second-quarter profit rose 14 percent from a year ago, as crude oil and natural gas prices continued their upward climb.
The Irving-based oil company posted second-quarter earnings of $11.6 billion, or $2.22 per diluted share, on revenue of $138 billion. That compares to earnings of $10.2 billion, or $1.83 per diluted share, on revenue of $98 billion during the same quarter last year.
Despite Exxon Mobil’s (NYSE:XOM) quarterly increase in profits and revenue, the company missed analyst estimates by posting earnings of $2.22 per diluted share — 30 cents below the average analyst estimate of $2.52 per share for the second quarter.
On Thursday morning, the company’s stock price dropped 2.7 percent to $82.09 per share, compared with $84.38 per share at close the day before.
Exxon Mobil said the company’s crude oil and natural gas earnings were partly offset by lower production levels, escalating operating costs and lower refining and chemical margins. The company also expanded exploration initiatives in the second quarter in response to growing global demand for crude oil and natural gas products.
Capital and exploration project spending increased to $7 billion in the second quarter, up 38 percent from last year,” the oil giant said. “For the first half of 2008, spending on capital and exploration projects was $12.5 billion.”
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Cam,

Your right on the money, people that do not understand a profit statement only see the talking point put out by the news media. Typically trying to stir up ****, as it does.

Heres another interesting take.

Exxon, an exploration and production company that also engages in refining, wasn't completely immune to oil's high market prices during the second quarter since the company doesn't’t produce enough crude to meet its retail demand. As a result, the company's exploration and production division's profits soared 68.0% to $10.0 billion but its refining and marketing unit lost 54.0% at $1.6 billion.
The company also needs pump prices to reflect higher market prices, which didn't happen during the second quarter. Although gasoline prices jumped 25.0% during the second quarter from a year ago, the price of oil nearly doubled.

Who determine a price of a barrel of Oil and who determines the price at the pump?
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Hey CD lay off the RV industry they have a big enough problem right now.
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The great thing about throwing out dollar figures, is there is no context ever given. And ....... what you never hear said, is how much the govenment made on the taxes. Here, according to a 2006 Washington Post story, is some context:

54.8% can be attributed to the cost of crude oil
21.7% is the cost of refining
4.5% goes for marketing, distribution and storage
18.9% is for taxes

Average profit margin is 2.5%, which means taxes are over 6 times as much as the oil company profits. So who's gouging who?
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