Presidential Poll

[sailaway21]

Originally Posted by rkfitz

The "Baberaham Lincoln" post had me laughing out loud!

....stolen from Wayne's World.

[thedinghysailor]

Look at the percentage after almost 100 votes! Guess this forum is not exactly a microcosm of the country. Something about sailors just meshes well with war vets and hot governors with no experience.

[xort]

the guy who said he wants a new tone in politics and wants a stop to the ugly personal attacks has called for his supporters to "Get in the face" of republicans. I hope JM challenges him on this tonight, literally.

[jgmartis]

I am very proud to support, work for the campaign and vote for Barrack Obama. It has been said that a rising tide raises all boats and USA needs a rising tide. Now I challange any sailor out there to dispute this fact: Tides only rise from the bottom up. Barrack walked away from many high six figure offers after law school to help unemployeed steelworkers, this is his touch point to the middle class. As Henry Ford noted when he created the middle class (by paying higher wages to his line workers) in America manufactures need a middle class so they have more customers that can afford their products. The root of the problems our nation faces today is the collapse of the real wages (after taxes inflation and healthcare) of the middle class.

[mdbee]

Originally Posted by jgmartis

I am very proud to support, work for the campaign and vote for Barrack Obama. It has been said that a rising tide raises all boats and USA needs a rising tide. Now I challange any sailor out there to dispute this fact: Tides only rise from the bottom up. Barrack walked away from many high six figure offers after law school to help unemployeed steelworkers, this is his touch point to the middle class. As Henry Ford noted when he created the middle class (by paying higher wages to his line workers) in America manufactures need a middle class so they have more customers that can afford their products. The root of the problems our nation faces today is the collapse of the real wages (after taxes inflation and healthcare) of the middle class.

Oh please, I'm going to be sick now.

[jgmartis]

Originally Posted by T34C

I watched the RNC convention this week and learned something very interesting.... Even Cindy McCain is more qualified than JoBama.

I can tell you from my years as an intercity pediatric ICU nurse that if Cindy was a white suburban housewife who stole drugs for her addiction she would be on probation and CYS would be investigating her fitness as a mother. If she was a low income black mother she would have had her kids taken from her by CYS and been put in jail. Lets not pretend she's more than she is.

[chucklesR]

Jgmartis,
Inflation is a economic fact, can't stop it any more than your tide. Taxes and rising health care costs are because entitlements are out of hand (60% of all health care dollars in the US are medicare/medicaid which raises 7-12% in cost every year, far more than inflation).
Wealth redistribution being so popular with the poor, my suggestion is get off your butt's and make more. I grew up on social security checks, and escaped it with hard work and harder study and making the right choices for my future. Anyone can.

Your boy wants to make entitlements grow even larger and redistribute my tax dollar to your drug addict. I personally say no. I'll just elect to make less and escape under his 'tax the rich' radar for a while.

You, frankly, make no more sense than your Cindy McCain story. I don't elect the wives, I elect the nominee. I also elect for ability, not race which your story implies is your primary concern.

[jgmartis]

Originally Posted by chucklesR

Jgmartis,
Inflation is a economic fact, can't stop it any more than your tide. Taxes and rising health care costs are because entitlements are out of hand (60% of all health care dollars in the US are medicare/medicaid which raises 7-12% in cost every year, far more than inflation).
Wealth redistribution being so popular with the poor, my suggestion is get off your butt's and make more. I grew up on social security checks, and escaped it with hard work and harder study and making the right choices for my future. Anyone can.

Your boy wants to make entitlements grow even larger and redistribute my tax dollar to your drug addict. I personally say no. I'll just elect to make less and escape under his 'tax the rich' radar for a while.

You, frankly, make no more sense than your Cindy McCain story. I don't elect the wives, I elect the nominee. I also elect for ability, not race which your story implies is your primary concern.

I self educated myself and paid my own way despite many health problems, telling people to get off there butts and make more is the sign of a self rightous ass, Your good fortune is mostly due to luck or the blessings of God depending on your belief, that is why you (and I) are where we are today One health crisis could have stopped you (or me) cold because you and I live in a country that punishes its sick with poverty. If you doubt this consider this fact; the determining factor in the outcome of a cancer patiet is if they have health insurance (ACS). That is a horrible fact in the richest nation in the world that spends a higher % of GDP on healthcare than any other developed nation. Race is not the deciding factor in my choice, the economy and health care are. The rich pay lower tax rates under BUSH 43 (who I voted for 1 time) than they did under Reagan (who I vote for) Bush 41 (who I Vote for 2 times) Clinton (who I vote against 2 times) but the nation debt has risen by 6 trillion, DOW is down 4ooo+ (a loss of 8 trillion $), we went from a balaced budget to 500+ billion deficet and McCains response is to lower taxes on the rich which will only lead to the destruction of the middle class by increasing the national debt. I dont know what your business is but I can tell you its worthless without a middle class

[poopdeckpappy]

Originally Posted by jgmartis

I am very proud to support, work for the campaign and vote for Barrack Obama. It has been said that a rising tide raises all boats and USA needs a rising tide. Now I challange any sailor out there to dispute this fact: Tides only rise from the bottom up. Barrack walked away from many high six figure offers after law school to help unemployeed steelworkers, this is his touch point to the middle class. As Henry Ford noted when he created the middle class (by paying higher wages to his line workers) in America manufactures need a middle class so they have more customers that can afford their products. The root of the problems our nation faces today is the collapse of the real wages (after taxes inflation and healthcare) of the middle class.

OK!!, who put the LSD in the Blue Koolaid ???

[chucklesR]

JG,
I worked my way out by joining the military and spent 22 years in service to my country. I worked in communications and the telecomm industry died just as I was retiring so I picked up books at the used book store and learned the IT industry then took a job at entry level to get going again. 6 months after retiring I had a heart attack that dang near killed me, I went back to work the first day the doctor's would let me. I had a stroke three years later, and went back to work TWO YEARS before I had to because that's what I thought was the best way to regain my mental faculties. Now I make three times what I did in the military and would like to keep a little more of it in my pocket.
I've given enough.
I've seen far to much pain in this world to believe in any God I'd want to worship. I believe in myself my hands, my mind and my ability to do what I need to do, by extension I see that in every individual.

You want good health care, earn it. It is not a right, basic level emergency room care is mandated by law as an entitlement and frankly that is ruining our health care system by driving up costs while putting a band aid on the problem.
My parents were veterans, both poor enough that the Veteran's Administration Hospitals were where we got health care. I earned my lifetime of free low cost health care by giving 22 years of my life to make sure you had a chance to grow up in the country I love.
I grew up watching family and friends skim welfare, unemployment and soc sec disability for years and years - it was their life style, it's how they got by. There is an entire class of people out there and that's how they live, on the dole, under the radar, just getting by.
Not one held a steady job, and not one produced a damn thing of value. The drag they cause on our society is tremendous and sickens me. Got some health care for that?

I'm not your average sanctimonious ass, I've earned it.