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I just want to make sure I'm thinking straight... Mike Savage is a good and reasonable man, and Colin Powell is a traitor? Do I have that right?

Savage is a very interesting person, he makes more sense than not, he blasts all sides of the political spectum, but like most talk show hosts he is simply a commentator.

Colin Powell is no traitor..............everybody is allow poor judgement from time to time, this just happens to be his time
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obama rules in three weeks or so ,so as ronny regan used to say 'vote with your feet' i love america ,god bless obama
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Sck....pls. don't lump MY calling jg's post BS with others making the Lenin/Stalin connection. I don't make that connection.
Most people who read that wouldn't make a connection of Lenin/Stalin/Obama because, that connection isn't implied, the connection isn't man to man, it's policies to policies, goals to goals.


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All social wealth, the land with all its natural resources hidden in its bowels and on the surface, and all factories and works must be taken out of the hands of the exploiters and taken into common property of the people. The first duty of a real workers' government is to declare by means of a series of decrees the most important means of production to be national property and place them under the control of society.
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Socialism is a result of conscious social building, planned and conducted by the organized workers who have won political power and supported by the majority
This is the goal,this is the policy, this is were we're headed, this is basic socialism 101, and as you say Obama is a far left socialist.
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Guys...

This is your scene, not mine. I risk tresspass here.

I respected Powell (past tense) but shifting camp at a time like this????
You simply do not do those things at a time like this.
Not two weeks before an election.
Pull that stunt two weeks afterward, but not before.
It is called loyalty to the party. It does not mean that your party is right, it just means that you don't do that two weeks before the vote.
I mean, this is not Pol Pot he has deserted in the Killing Fields, but it's his own Republican Party... or was his own.
If your party is wrong on too many points, then leave it, but leave it two weeks after the vote, then you are deserting as your party members try to re-organise, and not helping to sink them as the voting gap widens, two weeks before a truly vital vote.

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Guess you didn't get the memo Pappy. The ME generation has become the GIMME generation.
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Guess you didn't get the memo Pappy. The ME generation has become the GIMME generation.
That's cause they know my inbox is a FELLOWS P70 paper shredder


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obama rules in three weeks or so ,so as ronny regan used to say 'vote with your feet' i love america ,god bless obama
Obama may rule in 3 months or so, not 3 weeks

But you reminded me of something I heard today; A talk show host was out polling people on who they may vote for, if they said Obama, he would ask," what do you think of his choice of a female running partner ", they're answer was "they had no problem with Palin"

If they answered McCain, he would ask " What did you think of his spread the wealth commit " they answer in a nutshell was " it was fair "

Questions like this went on for awhile, at first I was saying, holy sh*t, this is who's voting ??, but it got so bad, so stupid, I just had to just shake my head and laugh

I think there was only two who caught on to what he was doing
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And they say the American education system is broke. Seems like it's working just the way they want it to.
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I got a kick out of reading Obama's statement about small, ugly politics today, after he and his surrogates eviscerated a private citizen for simply asking a question.
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Trillions to bail out Wall Street and the hell with the sick

As you read this remember we live in the richest country in the world and spend a higher % of GDP on healthcare than any other developed nation. How can we ask "God bless America" when we spend trillions for wall street rich to become richer and allow this to happen.

Only Obama addresses this problem, McCain would make it worse.

Study: Many cancer patients forgoing care because of cost

By Liz Szabo, USA TODAY

At a time when they're already fighting for their lives, more cancer patients are now struggling to pay for their medicines.

One in eight people with advanced cancer turned down recommended care because of the cost, according to a new analysis from Thomson Reuters, which provides news and business information. Among patients with incomes under $40,000, one in four in advanced stages of the disease refused treatment.

Of late-stage colon cancer patients, 12% spent more than $25,000 out of pocket, according to the survey, in which 1,767 people answered an online questionnaire. This type of survey isn't considered scientifically rigorous, because it didn't use a random sample of people. But its findings are similar to a 2006 study in Cancer, which found that cost caused more than 20% of all cancer survivors — not just those with advanced cases — to delay or miss needed care.

Experts say the signs of stress are everywhere:

• Nearly 20% of Americans have problems paying their medical bills, according to a report in September from the Center for Studying Health System Change.

• One in four cancer patients or their families said they used up all or most of their savings to pay for treatment, according to a 2006 survey of nearly 1,000 survivors and their families by USA TODAY, the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health.

• One in 10 in that survey said they were unable to pay for basic necessities, such as food, heat and housing.

Many of the medical advances that allow cancer patients to live longer come at a high cost, says Joseph Singer of HealthCore, a Delaware-based health research company.

As costs rise, insurers are shifting a greater share to patients, says Neal Meropol of Philadelphia's Fox-Chase Cancer Center. Many plans now require patients to pay for 20% of their health care — a heavy burden in the case of drugs such as Erbitux, which costs $10,000 a month.

Charities that assist cancer patients say they're straining to keep up with the demand.

At CancerCare, a national group that provides social work and small grants for transportation expenses, requests for financial help increased 30% this summer compared with last, says executive director Diane Blum.

David Johnson, director of hematology and oncology at Nashville's Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center, says some of his patients have opted to stop treatment partly because of the cost. His own brother-in-law, a truck driver, turned down Erbitux when he was facing colon cancer four years ago. He says patients face a painful dilemma: "Do they pay out of pocket — sometimes in the thousands of dollars — or do they forgo the therapy to preserve for their family what modest assets they may have?"
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