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Question Kayaking in Alaska

I'm planning a trip to Alaska in the summer, and we wanted to spend a couple of days kayaking in the Prince William Sound off of Whittier. Has anyone ever done that? What are your impressions/recommendations/warnings?
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I have done some sea kayaking in the san juans. It's a ton of fun! Just make sure to learn to roll, it's important.
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Just make sure to learn to roll, it's important.
I find that if you roll a few before ya go it's not so important

Love coastal kayaking, but never been up there, it's gotta be awsome from what I've seen..................enjoy it



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I live in Alaska. I use Whittier harbor to "splash" my Bristol 27 every spring. But I'll be honest, I try to spend as little time in Whittier as possible.

I don't kayak.... so, can't give you real specific information but I see evidence of several Kayak outfitters in the area. If you are an experienced kayaker, I'm sure you can rent gear and do just anything ....from a trip from the harbor.... to getting taken out and dropped off just about anywhere.

As far as other advice.... just be prepared for cool wet weather. There is a reason why we have a rain forest... and lot's of glaciers.
That being said..... We do have a fair amount of tolarable weather in the summer. We also have several State of Alaska Marine Parks near Whittier that are geared toward kayakers. If you want increadible scenery... go for Nellie Juan or Harriman Fiord. Feel free to ask me specific Questions.
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Thanks, everyone, for your input. I guess I should spend some time learning how to roll in the warm LA water, tager. But not learning how to "roll", pappy. I'm sure some of my friends could give me entire lectures on that subject.

Thanks to Tree for the local advice! I'll take you up on your offer:

Why do you try to spend little time in Whittier? I'm planning on getting some groceries there (food), renting a kayak and going camping somewhere along the coast. We will probably start paddling right out of the harbor. Does that sound feasible, or too adventurous (I'm taking my girlfriend with me)? I've been on kayaks about a half dozen times, she has about 2 or 3 times. Can we reach Nellie Juan or Harriman Fiord that way? How long would it take?

Thanks again for everyone's help.
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The reason I try to spend as little time as possible in Whittier is hard to explain.
First of all, there’s not much town there. Yes, there is a little store there but expect to pay a lot more for anything….and, on top of that, there is not a great selection goods. If there is any way for you to do it, try to stock up in Anchorage. I’ll assume you are arriving through Anchorage anyway.
Back to why I’d not spend a lot of time in Whittier. The town is located at the head of a inlet (fiord). The mountains surrounding the town are tall and steep. Add a low cloud deck and it’s down right claustrophobic. The weather almost always seems to be better after you get out a ways.
The same mountains and basic geographic location of Whittier seems to funnel the winds and make them stronger.
Then the harbor itself is small and crowded.
Most of the crowd in Whittier is tourists off of tour ships and Anchorage day fishermen. Think people dressed in clear plastic rain gear with 5 cameras hanging off their body. …… Or, noisy power boaters that always seem to be in a hurry.
Now…. I’m not an expert but I’m going to say your girlfriend is a little under-experienced for this area. I’d consider finding a guided outfit for several reasons.
They are good at determining people’s ability and taking them to places that are appropriate. They can show you things and take you places you might overlook.
Salt water kayaking in this area has some unique challenges. The shore is very steep in most places. It can be many miles between those serene little coves that have protected gravel beaches. You can’t just say…. I’m tired, let’s go ashore and take a break. When the winds are kicking up and the waves are steep my friends who are very experienced kayakers have run into trouble getting ashore. Also, we have huge tides. At times we will have –6 low tides and +18 high tides. So yes, there can be tidal currents.
I see people doing day paddles right out of the harbor. I’m not sure how many folks go on multi day trips right out of the harbor though. There are water taxi services that take people out to "jump start" their trip.
There is Surprise Cove State Marine park about 13 miles out of Whittier. But that is straight line…. Not hugging the shore and you must cross the entrance to Blackstone bay….. so you need to be able to handle open water and some bigger waves.
At Surprise, there are nice wood tent platforms (a real plus in the wet muskeg and heavy undergrowth etc. that you can run into.) There are also some trails and some nice hills to climb.
It takes me a day and a half to get to Nellie Juan or Harriman in my sail boat…. And that is in good weather. A water taxi "go fast" boat can do it in a few hours.
For a closer to Whittier ….and still pretty spectacular area, there is Blackstone Bay. I’ve seen kayakers in that area.
I’d also recommend getting a copy of a book : A Cruising Guide to Prince William Sound, $39.95 by Jim and Nancy Lethcoe.
PS we have bears …. I have not taken a single trip over the years where I have not seen a bear. Never been a problem… but then again, I don’t sleep ashore.
When are you going to be here? June tends to be slightly more dry. …but you can still run into snow right down to shoreline that hasn’t completely melted off. Additionally, days are very very long. August, things will be cooling down and there will actually be a few hours of dark at night. It might be a little rainier too.
A handheld marine Radio would be a good thing to have along. I’ve heard kayakers anounce open water crossings so as to alert the "go fast" crowd of the presence. Also, you can get weather reports …. And if you get in a jamb, maybe get some assistance.
Cell phones work close in to Whittier….. and way out in the middle of PWS…. But not so much back in the bays.

Here's last August in Blackstone Bay
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Awesome post, Tree, I really appreciate it!

That gave me a lot to think about. I might rethink the whole kayaking idea and just go on a whalewatching tour or something. Unfortunately, I don't think I have enough experience to charter a sailboat out there.

I would take the adventure if I was by myself, but I'm not gonna put my girlfriend through it.

Thanks again for the advice!
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We're a bit landlocked up here in Fairbanks, but I do occasionally go kayaking wif me dorter on the Chena River. I've always wanted to sail a Viking ship up the Chena River....it would definitely get some attention.

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Now I'm feeling guilty that I talked you out of it.

The bears aren't that bad... plenty of people camp on shore.

There are places to pitch tents other than in the State parks.

Sure, it can be cold. And the water is cold..... and it can rain....

But.....

The water can be smooth as silk without a breath of wind... (iron genny is a must have up here)

The sun can be hot..... the scenery spectacular.

Right around Whittier there can be a lot of boat traffic.... but it's amazing.... get out a ways.... and you can find places where you won't see anyone else for days!

I'm not aware of anyone doing sailboat charters out of Whittier.

If you do give up on the kayak idea..... and find the "glacier charters" too touristy..... Take the State Ferry over to Cordova. It's a two hour or so trip.

It's unique in that there are no highways to Cordova. You can only get there by boat or plane.

After I get my boat in the water, I make Cordova more my home port. It's a very interesting little town. Trails, history, a road to Childs glacier, campgrounds, .... regular people. If you are there at the right time, there is a Bluegrass festival.... there's lots of stuff going on around the 4th of July.....and other activities over the summer.

The harbor is a working harbor. Probably 70% of the boats are commercial fishing of some kind. Friendly folks..... Honest, down to earth people.
If you want, you can hire someone to take you cruising, sight seeing or fishing the area. If you don't have a car.... it's not that hard to walk about anyplace you may want to go...... or it's not hard to hitch rides to places.

google Cordova and see what you come up with. There are two web cams run by the local telephone company... take a look for yourself.

Near Cordova.... one of my favorite anchorages.....



Cordova Small Boat harbor... when the fish are running, and the fleet is out, you have the harbor amost to yourself!
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I have worked in Anchorage for the last 14 months, I agree that Whittier would not be my first choice of a place to kayak. (I am a sailor not a kayaker.) I have seen several folks on Lake Eklutna kayaking (it is north of Anchorage.) Also there are several outfitters in Seward, Alaska that will take you to islands or near glaciers to kayak. We planned on taking one of their classes this summer, but found ourselves out of work and are now heading back home to Florida.

Alaska is an incredible state, go kayaking, just make sure you have done the research and be prepared for the weather and the wildlife.
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