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Angry 1 Trillion Dollars spent on war's to hand over Iraq & Afganistan to the Muslim World!

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"...Among a range of difficult choices, this the best way to protect our nation now and into the future.

The extremist we are fighting in Afganistan and Pakistan have attacked us and our allies before.

If we allow them access to the very same safe haveans they used before 2001 they will have a greater capacity to regroup and attack again.

They can drag an entire region into chaos..." Hillary Clinton
Obama: Taking down Afganistan from rouge tribes in order to give complete control of the country over to United Muslim World ~!!

I love how this administration loves to take an absolute stance regarding what is the best way to protect our nation. I disagree, among a range of difficult choices, this is not the best, it is IMO among the worse decisions this country can make.

Contrary to Hillary Clintons statement a few minutes ago in using American troops to unite the rouge Muslim troops and tribes into subjection of the United World of Islam is not the best way to protect our nation now and into the future.

Iran has it not funded and trained the attackers who attacked us in Iraq as well as in Afganistan?

Last I checked Obama's campaign was designed to give America's persona a face lift, how hypocritical do we look now to the rest of the world by doing exactly what Obama was condemning during his campain in “Our troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians” in order to push our western imperial agenda to the rest of the world in the name of peace?

When we went to Iraq what was the ultimate end of that objective? Did we not take a nation that was not in league with the Muslim world and hand it over to the Muslim world who is opposed to the west?

having handed Iraq, and the second largest oil preserve on the planet to fuel the Muslim Worlds anti-west agenda, we are in now the process of helping out the Muslim World in obtaining complete control of Afganistan, by bringing the independant tribes in the region into subjection to the powers that be in the reunified Muslim World.

Was it not enough that we gave them the second largest oil preserve? Was it not enough that the greaters exchange of wealth in the history of mankind, was given to the Muslim world by the greatest experiment of mankind?

How much more do we have to do to give the Muslim world every handicap under the sun in order to help them achieve their agenda of waging their oppressive and tyranical agenda of controlling the entire world at the west's expense of liberty, properity and independance?

Oh that's right I know what more, handing over complete control of the White House to their rook, Obama. Brilliant~!!

Our troops are are being used as pawns to the Muslim worlds agenda of taking over the world, we are not using our troops to push the agenda of America's values of liberty and indepence in the world, we are using our troops to push Islam's tyranical and oppressive agenda.

Hamas a former terrorist group is now according to our former president Jimmy Carter no longer a terrorist group but rather a political group. Fact is Hamas, Al Qaeda what are they really if not the Muslim Worlds rogue military forces pushing the agenda of the religion of Islam to get its followers to use the sword in order to take complete control of the world, while the rest of the united Muslim world shuns their efforts in its effort to take complete control of the world. having America bring the rogues into subjection? Priceless~!! UUUUUHHHHHHGGGGGG

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The UN condemned Israel disproportionate 3 week attack of Palestine, this after Palestinian suicide bombers and missles have been terrorizing Israel for years and years with countless incidences.

How much more disproportionate is what America is doing in Afganistan after one incident that lasted a few minutes, compared to what Israel did in Palestine after countless incidences which spanned years?

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Interesting article on Sarkozy's attempt to protect his nation from being taken over by the Muslim World.

French President Confronts Muslims who openly seek to transform France into a Muslim nation with threat of deprotation

French President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to start a dialogue with his countrymen about their national identity...


What's more, he demonstrated that he is willing to wage a head-on battle against the forces of political correctness...

Then he espoused a national identity that might resonate for Americans in the wake of the Fort Hood, Texas, massacre by a Muslim-American army major who reportedly espoused radical Muslim beliefs.

Sarkozy suggested that France could be on the verge of losing its soul because of a multiculturalism that tolerates radical Islamic fundamentalism...

At the heart of the identity crisis plaguing today’s France is a significant immigrant population that refuses to become French, and a multicultural left that has allowed them to live isolated in ghettoes for decades, where many have fallen prey to Muslim preachers of hate.

About 10 percent of the French population is of Muslim origin. Most French Muslims emigrated from North Africa to France after Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia won their independence in the 1960s.

Although many have assimilated into French secular society, which Sarkozy applauded, others openly seek to transform France into a Muslim nation and have won allies in the multicultural left.

“France does not demand that you give up your history or your culture,” Sarkozy said. “But France demands of those who would link their fates to hers to also share her history and her culture. France is not hodgepodge of communities or individuals. . . Becoming French means accepting a form of civilization, values, and customs.

France is a country where women are free. France is a country where church is separate from state, and where the beliefs of each person are respected.

But France is also a country where there is no room for the burka, and where there is no room for the subjugation of women under any circumstance or pretext."

The French have debated for 25 years whether Muslim women should be allowed to veil themselves in public schools or in public workplaces, as radical Muslim preachers and their supporters on the left have demanded.

Sarkozy ended that debate scarcely one year after becoming president by outlawing the veil in public last year.

In announcing the reform at the time, Sarkozy said he was troubled by the “discriminatory and degrading” Islamist practice of veiling women.

“I don’t want certain neighborhoods to feel more like Kabul or Tehran than France...

To open our doors to others, we have to have enough confidence in ourselves. We must be sure of our values and of our model...

And it is for this reason, my fellow citizens, that anyone who comes to France to call for violence and hatred of the other will be deported...

It is not our values that are at fault but our departure from them, at times even our denial of them,” Sarkozy said.
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Isn't it funny how the typicaly liberal european nations are becoming more and more conservative, and we've managed to get ourselves into a place where being a conservative is a minority party unto itself? We have been convinced of our "guilt" by the left through hoaxes of global warming, for example, by none other than a former vice president of our nation (Al Gore), and his ecoextremist cohorts. We have been convinced that we are responsible for the well being of those who will not try to pull their own weight, much less attempt to succeed eg: why do over %60 of my tax dollars go toward funding social programs? We have been convinced that we must rebuild, and contribute money and aid to nations that would attack us had they the opertunity, and also do the same for those that already have. What else do you think that they teach our children at government schools? And now, because of this "show trial" forced down our throats by Eric Holder in NY we will have to either watch a terorist go free, or watch our enire justice system fall apart based on president. (Judges are required to make rulings based on president eg: brown vs board of education). I was deployed a total of 4 tours to fight the war on terror and have always wandered "who the hell let this camera man near me?" We are not fighting in the US, so why should freedom of the press apply? Why should someone get two or three months to pick apart a decision that I was given less than a second to make? Eg: the marine who watched his best friend die by being blown up by a guy playing dead, then shot an enemy combatant the next day while he lay still with his hand's hidden. That marine received a life senatnce to hard labor at ft. Levinworth. Cameras and reporters have no place on the battlefield. If you want to see war that bad then I suggest that you sign up. So, congratulations to all of you who voted for our new "novelty president" he's shaping us right up by selling our nation off to comunist China. You see our currency is backed by land (colateral) that's what gives the paper it's value, so look at it as a mortgage if you will. Problem being, if we default, the colateral gets forclosed on. Or of coarse we could fight them for it, and if you think that this war was bad, then you had better strap it on son, because you haven't seen anything yet. Hey, I have an idea..... Let's borow some more money from China so that we can socialize medicine!! That should be viable, right? I mean look at the wonderful things our government has done with social security, medicare, and the fed!!
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Isn't it funny how the typicaly liberal european nations are becoming more and more conservative, and we've managed to get ourselves into a place where being a conservative is a minority party unto itself? We have been convinced of our "guilt" by the left through hoaxes of global warming, for example, by none other than a former vice president of our nation (Al Gore), and his ecoextremist cohorts. We have been convinced that we are responsible for the well being of those who will not try to pull their own weight, much less attempt to succeed eg: why do over %60 of my tax dollars go toward funding social programs? We have been convinced that we must rebuild, and contribute money and aid to nations that would attack us had they the opertunity, and also do the same for those that already have. What else do you think that they teach our children at government schools? And now, because of this "show trial" forced down our throats by Eric Holder in NY we will have to either watch a terorist go free, or watch our enire justice system fall apart based on president. (Judges are required to make rulings based on president eg: brown vs board of education). I was deployed a total of 4 tours to fight the war on terror and have always wandered "who the hell let this camera man near me?" We are not fighting in the US, so why should freedom of the press apply? Why should someone get two or three months to pick apart a decision that I was given less than a second to make? Eg: the marine who watched his best friend die by being blown up by a guy playing dead, then shot an enemy combatant the next day while he lay still with his hand's hidden. That marine received a life senatnce to hard labor at ft. Levinworth. Cameras and reporters have no place on the battlefield. If you want to see war that bad then I suggest that you sign up. So, congratulations to all of you who voted for our new "novelty president" he's shaping us right up by selling our nation off to comunist China. You see our currency is backed by land (colateral) that's what gives the paper it's value, so look at it as a mortgage if you will. Problem being, if we default, the colateral gets forclosed on. Or of coarse we could fight them for it, and if you think that this war was bad, then you had better strap it on son, because you haven't seen anything yet. Hey, I have an idea..... Let's borow some more money from China so that we can socialize medicine!! That should be viable, right? I mean look at the wonderful things our government has done with social security, medicare, and the fed!!
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