
01-20-2010
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Glaciergate
People are begining to see some flaws in the AGW claims. Like the idea that 300 meters of ice can melt in just a few years. So crazy was the claim that even the IPCC is backing down from it.
Here is a breakdown from Vampyroteuthis infernalis :
* The claim was based upon a 1999 news story in the New Scientist.
* The New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.
* Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was "speculation" and was not supported by any formal research.
* Professor Murari Lal oversaw the chapter on glaciers in the IPCC report. Lal himself admits he knows little about glaciers. [so why was a non-glacier expert in charge of the glacier section ?].
* In 2005 the WWF cited the Hasnain work in a report called An Overview of Glaciers, Glacier Retreat, and Subsequent Impacts in Nepal, India and China (the WWF has lied at other times in its reports. Like biasing a report on CO2 report cards for countries. Penalizing France's nuclear power with natural gas levels of CO2 in order to increase France's report card because the WWF did not believe in CO2)
* Glaciologists found the IPCC figures inherently ludicrous, pointing out that most Himalayan glaciers are hundreds of feet thick and could not melt fast enough to vanish by 2035 unless there was a huge global temperature rise. The maximum rate of decline in thickness seen in glaciers at the moment is 2-3 feet a year and most are far lower.
* The average thickness is 300 metres thick so to melt one even at 5 metres a year (5-8 times faster than highest rates) would take 60 years (twice as long). So the error is 10-16 times any reasonable level of melting.
* Rajendra Pachauri, the IPCC chairman, has previously dismissed criticism of the Himalayas claim as "voodoo science".
* Last week another row broke out when the Met Office criticised suggestions that sea levels were likely to rise 1.9m by 2100, suggesting much lower increases were likely.
Sealevelgate has been known for some time. Check out these claims from the 80's:
Canada's coastal cities at risk - CBC Archives
Have we seen the 1.5 to 4c increase? No. The latest British Met Office report says temps are going up about 1.5c per century, nowhere near the 3 to 8c claimed back then and upon which the public based it’s concern.
And what about sea level rise? Have we seen a half meter increase? No we have not, the increase has been about 1.8 mm per year or about 90mm. So rather than 0.50 of a meter we have about 0.09 of a meter. Not 50cm, not even 10cm but a mere 9cm, off by more than 80%.
There are so many Gates in the the AGW alarmist story it feels like we are back in school studing Digital Logic. Now that is what is needed, an AGW Truth Table...nah they would get an F as Climate Change OR Global Warming does not prove AGW claims.
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Have faith that the oceans are going to rise and flood the world, that plague and pestilence brought on by Climate Change is going to punish us for not believing. Please do as they say it is our only hope. :P
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