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Exclamation Koran: to burn or not to burn?

I say let it burn baby burn...

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Jan 23, 2009 Missiles fired from suspected US drones killed at least 15 people inside Pakistan today, the first such strikes since Barack Obama became...
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Dec 16, 2009 ... SANAA — Shiite rebels on Wednesday accused the US air force of bombing villages in northern Yemen



Burning the Koran does not endanger our troops, it is the hatred and intolerance of Islam that endangers our troops. it is our president insisting that we tolerate the intolerant until the intolerant possess complete and utter possession of our wanton naivete and ignorance.

The use of “Disproportionate Force” in the nearly decade war over an incident that lasted merely minutes, eerily and most certainly endangers our troops.

The preemptive attack of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan over the acts of a dozen or so rogue radicals with certainly most eerily endangers our troops.

The preemptive attack of the sovereign nation Pakistan over the acts of a dozen or so rogue radicals with certainly most eerily endangers our troops.

The preemptive attack of the sovereign nation of Iraq over the acts of a dozen or so rogue radicals with certainly most eerily endangers our troops.

The preemptive attack of the sovereign nation of Yemen over the acts of a dozen or so rogue radicals with certainly most eerily endangers our troops.



Our government painting Islam as a religion of peace is tragic.

By definition a religion of peace would not codify and incite those who obey its scripture to murder, rape, or wage war on unbelievers.

It's endorsement Islam despite its oppressive nature and the impact it has had throughout the world towards humanity namely the one billion members who happen to reside under the tyrannical influence of sharia law, namely women who are treated more like a slave than a soul that is entitled not to be raped, eerily and most certainly endangers our troops.

Americas values used to abide by humane standards, its endorsement of an inhumane religion however is an indictment on the current value system driving the policies of America.

Policies that produced the free trade agreement which diabolically allowed our products to be made with slave wages in communist countries, despite the fact many of our soldiers have died fighting communism.

As a result of pollicies half a million middle class Americans are finding themselves being ranked down to poverty row a month, due to America being forcing to compete with slave wages while watching its industrialized base be outsourced.

America is on the verge of being dependant on the government rather than being made independent by it.

A nation whose people are so in debt that they too look to be forced to work for slave wages within a nation whose policies are on the verge of surely and deliberately transforming it into a communist nation.

Hear we are being forced fed propaganda aiming to make us worry about the eerily certainly of our troops being endangered by Americans attempt to send a signal to the Muslim world.

The signal being that the lives lost on that Pennsylvania field where the direct result of humans being brainwashed by the Koran.

Brainwashed in order to wage war on America, war on humanity, war on the liberty, on choice.

Humans ought to have a choice to be able to choose what they want to believe rather than be forced by the sword to possess the convictions of others.

One minute this administration calls America a nation of cowards, and the next they want to incite fear into the masses for wanting to step up to the plate in regards of calling out the religion of Islam?

Incite fear into the masses for wanting to step up to the plate in regards of calling out the Koran being nothing more than a Trojan Horse virus with the gift wrappings of religion?

Without Islam exploiting the awesome power of the-fear-of-God, do we have all these terrorists brainwashed by the Koran into zealously believing that if they kill themselves, while taking as many people out as they can with them, that they will get a one way ticket to heaven and have all these virgin slaves at their beckoning call?


It is what it is and if this administration is disposed to ignoring the will of the people with its policies, then the people will have to make it a policy to express their values without pause or hesitation, in an attempt to raise the banner and standard of America.

It is one thing to see our politicians play their politically correct cards, to the disdain and ultimate demise of our nation, but this is a slap in the face, a wake up call.

Wake up America, this is beyond adding insult to injury.


Americas President ought to be discouraging rather than wholeheartedly embracing the very source that cost so many lives on 911.

Americas President ought to be discouraging rather than wholeheartedly embracing Islams’ intent to raise their banner at the very location the zealots claimed to have possessed their successful battle in, while waging their war on Humanities Choice.

How many American soldiers have lost their lives while fighting this war against the Islamic terrorist zealots of the Koran?

To have them place their banner where the current war started, if that is not a symbol of victory for the Muslim world, who is looking to take complete control of the world, then clearly the definition of victory needs to be redefined and how.
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Who cares? It's just a book like the bible.
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Who cares? It's just a book like the bible.
Exactly.

But....

They will use it as an excuse to create yet more violence and turmoil and turn on any Westerner within reach claiming we are all the same and yet if we were to categorize them in the same manner then we are the villains again.

What a bunch of crap!
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Who cares? It's just a book like the bible.
and the Stars & Stripes is just cloth..............would you burn that too ??
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I wasn't refering to a tattered Flag..........or are you suggesting the Bible & Koran are old and beyond repair
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I know you weren't. And no. What I was suggesting was that this whole issue is stupid. Just one more thing to divide people.
Burning books to piss other people off is stupid. Building mosques just to piss other people off is stupid. It's all stupid. We seem to run around just looking for things to fight about. It's stupid.
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I'm a little surprised that Donald Trump's low ball offer to buy out the building that seems to be causing all the problems in the National media has escaped this brain trust. Once Donald Trump enters the media fray it is a wholesale circus of freewheeling bullspit. If you are really tough try burning some bibles and other flags and see how well you are received.
How about a little concern for our troops who are stationed in those hostile territories instead of your own aggrandized sense of self worth and importance? Burn your old tax filings instead.
The media has really turned this tempest in a teapot into a bullspit hurricane: Quran Burning Story: This Is How The Media Embarrass Themselves
Get rid of the crack whores in your own towns and then you can tell NYC where and what they can build for what religion.
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Damnit Knothead, I should have used one of those smilely faces; I know you knew what I meant.

And I agree with ya 1000%, this whole world has gone stupid, stupid to the point that it feels like something is going to blow.
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Who cares? It's just a book like the bible.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Ignorance is bliss... Its amazing however how the bliss is more often than not the result of a free fall from truth into oblivion.

Does this sound like what should be in the bible of a religion of peace or what you would expect to read in a KKK Gang or Mobsters pamphlet?

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Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.


Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39


Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbeliever’s....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9


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I don't get why anyone would be motivated to partake in such an act. I mean there's no possible positive end game. The goal is to rile up hate, and nothing more. Of course, as all good Christians know, hate is the tool of the Devil.
“Muslims are the vilest of animals…”


“Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims”


“How perverse are Muslims!”


“Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips”


“Fight those Muslims who are near to you”


“Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”

Well, if you haven’t guessed it already, these are quotes from the Qur’an in which we've replaced the word ‘Christian’, ‘Jew’ or ‘unbeliever’ with the word ‘Muslim.’

These verses come from five different places in the Qur’an. There are dozens of others scattered throughout that advocate violence in open-ended fashion. There are hundreds more that speak of hatred and hell toward Christians, Jews, and other non-believers...

TheReligionofPeace - CAIR's Hate Speech


What separates the Prophet of Islam from the prophets of Zion is that the prophet of Islam aimed to destroy the people and message of faith prophesied by the prophets of Zion, prophets mind you is the very foundation on which the false prophet built of his credence.

A lie needs a component of truth to make it fly, in this case the lie is built on the very component of truth it aims to destroy, and this is the enigma of Islam.

The prophet of Islam in his attempt to send Zion crashing down, Hijacked the message of Zion by claiming to be a prophet of the God of Zion while ushering his Anti-Zionist agenda and message.

When we see the terror incurred on the world by the false prophet’s Anti-Zionist message, is it no wonder why the prophet Elijah seemed to make his living off of killing false prophets?

Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Pinchas, Elkanah, Eli, Samuel, Gad, Nathan, King David, King Solomon, Eido, Michiyahu ben Yimlah, Obadiah, Achiyah of Shiloh, Yahu ben Chanani, Azariah ben Oded, Chaziel son of Metaniah, Eliezer of Morisha, Hosea, Amos, Micah, Amotz, Elijah, Elisha, Jonah, Isaiah, Joel, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Uriah from Kiryat Yearim, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Shmaya, Baruch, Neriah, Seriah, Mechasiah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Mordechai, Chanani, Oded, Daniel.

These 49 Prophets spanned thousands of years while sharing a common thread, Zion, and the coming of the Messiah as a Lamb and a Lion. Yet this false prophet has his believers raising him in higher esteem than the Messiah.

The message of Zion is the singular thread binding the prophet’s to the sheet woven in the sail aiming to power the ship of Humanity with the will of God through the turbulent waters of the shadow of the darkness of death.

The prophet Mohamed is aiming to unravel the thread of humanity, and distinguish its Right-of-Choice. The message the prophets of Zion brought to light in humanity was designed to do nothing more than snuff out the light from humanity while sending it hurling back to the barbaric dark ages with his abominably oppressive and tyrannical message of hate, which is posing itself to be anything but.

The prophets of God brought to light the message of Zion, logic dictates any prophet who refuses to bear the torch of this message, or let alone aim to destroy and put it out, can not be considered anything but a false prophet of the God of Zion, of the God of Abraham and Isaac.

It was not just the message of faith Abraham possessed, but the message of every prophet who shared the faith of Abraham.

Prophets like Daniel, for instance who saw this coming, spoke of the end time's when the worshipers in the Temple on the Temple Mount would be committing an abomination, an abomination referred to as the Abomination of Desolation’s.



How much more of an abomination can you get than to see the temple of the religion aiming to destroy and make a desolation of Zionism sitting on top of the mount where the former Temple's of Zionism once stood?

The last Temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Roman's as prophesied by by the Lamb.

The prophet of Islam built his credence on Abraham, and used that very credence to do nothing more than to cut off the message of Abraham, the father of the faithful, as well as the faithful who dared to believe the message of the God of Abraham, Moses and the Prophets of Zion.

Romans renamed Israel, Palestine. Well a few centuries after the Jews where banned from Jerusalem, the Jews and Arabs in an allegiance conquered the Romans and regained possession of Jerusalem and the Jews where once again allowed back into Jerusalem.

The allegiance between the Jews and Arabs predates the coming of the lamb the Messiah of creation. Why it was this allegiance that triggered the first coming.

What is totally bizarre is the first and second coming are prophesied based on certain events that would trigger the clock starting the count down for the arrival of the Lamb and for the arrival of the Lion.

The first countdown was prophesied to be triggered when the edict was given to rebuild Jerusalem, well that happened by the authority of Arteaxerxes Longimanus March 14, 445 BC.

Well 173,880 days later Jesus appears as King.

The Arabs did not only free the Jews from Babylonian captivity, but they managed to sponsor the rebuilding of the second Temple on the Temple Mount.

The trigger for the coming of the Lion has already been tripped. The prophetical countdown is on, less than two years and counting...

Speaking of ignorance is bliss, the denial revolving around the reality that there is already a Temple on the Temple Mount committing the abomination of desolation’s spoken of by the prophet Daniel is astonishingly delusional.

Yet no where near as delusional as assuming legitimacy of a prophet who build's his credence on the very prophets who's message of Zion the false prophet has aimed to eradicate off of the face of the earth by any means necessary.

Unfortunately for humanity the means being employed to fuel this Anti-Zionist/Anti-Humanities-Right-of-Choice endeavor, just so happens to be breaking the Commandments-of-Love designed to instill humanity to mankind.

Make no mistake about it, Islam is a virus aiming to destroy humanity.

The sooner people wake up and acknowledge this horror, the sooner a positive tack can be made to approach the horror head on rather than taking a politically correct approach of fueling this fire by acknowledging the virus as a religion of peace.

Burning the Koran is doing nothing more than creating a fire line designed to keep

Islams' Anti-Humane virus is spreading by the sword like an out of control wild fire into the minds of those who have not built a firewall of protection.

The entire point of this world is to give souls a choice, as to whether they are born into eternity as children of the father of creation or not.

Now we see man at the point where his choice is aiming to be permanently removed by elitist wanting to impose their choke hold grip on humanity. If there was ever a time to make a stand that time is now.







It starts with the spark inside the home of the soul, the rage of hate that ensues by the ignited virus in the minds of a man who does not possess the fire walls to protect himself from this religions diabolical influence which is triggered in a brainwashed Muslim, is felt by anyone who happens to be around him.

This is not about a people, but the viruses impact on people. Why even the of an educated mind of a doctor Malik Nadal Hasan, is not immune from the viruses impact when embraced by the mind.

The only protection from the wild fire of this virus is to make a stand against it, and build a firewall to protect your mind from it.






It is high time to hold the line, buring this Koran is doing nothing more than creating a fireline. Be a Hero


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