American Economy

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Check check out net migration rates

Net migration rate statistics - countries compared worldwide - NationMaster

The United States is 31 on the list. Canada and Australia have higher rates of net migration.

The Swedish example was about economic opportunities, not migration.

BTW - My Icelandic ancestors left the US for Canada.

Jack, you're confusing them with facts again - let them have their dreams & misconceptions.

Besides, what's wrong with only 3,000,000 people holding 1/2 of all the wealth in the U.S.?

[erps]

The United States is 31 on the list. Canada and Australia have higher rates of net migration.

and why are we comparing current immigration stats to try and prove something about past immigration?

[erps]

Besides, what's wrong with only 3,000,000 people holding 1/2 of all the wealth in the U.S.?

I care little on whether one thinks it's right or wrong. Each one of my neighbors is either better off or worse off than me. I'm pretty sure none of my neighbors feel entitled to take from the other neighbors to try and make it right. Are my neighbors and I wrong to not compare bank accounts and try and even things out by compelling some of our neighbors to give it up?

[RAGNAR]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

How about the famous one who was photo'd holding a sign that said "Keep your government hands off my Medicare" or the ones that think Palin or Bachmann are fit to hold the most important job in the world?

You keep mentioning this as if its meaning isn't reasonably clear given the context.

Medicare, SS and other programs were, and still often are, pushed as caches of cash set aside for people's retirement, with government's role being to assure these nest eggs are set up and protected. The current push, however, is to undo that veneer of reasonableness, turning these programs into yet more radical redistribution schemes that seek more or less equal outcomes irrespective of who has contributed what.

The placard you keep mocking certainly didn't phrase the point as well as it could be phrased, but you taking it out of context ins't much better.

And at some point you'll have to realize that pointing out such trivialities doesn't undo the central message these people are trying to communicate -- no matter how often you engage in this sophomoric, evasive nonsense.

More importantly, the bratty approach of focussing on such trivialities with that special tone only statists seem comfortable with, in no way advances your POVs, positions that have never been validated in the history of mankind.

[RAGNAR]

Originally Posted by tdw

Condescending is one thing ... I took your post re a certain former German dictator as crossing a line called outright abuse. Get close to stepping over it again and you will be taking a vacation.

I didn't post on Hitler, I referred to the known parallels between the former dictator and those who insist on controlling the economy centrally in the name of their never-proven superiority, with charts, numbers, citing their experience, etc, being par for the course.

I won't retract it, don't apologize for it.

Do what you must.

[SailKing1]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Check check out net migration rates

Net migration rate statistics - countries compared worldwide - NationMaster

The United States is 31 on the list. Canada and Australia have higher rates of net migration.

The Swedish example was about economic opportunities, not migration.

BTW - My Icelandic ancestors left the US for Canada.

The rate chart you posted from the many available in your link are based on per 1000 population.

Now go look at total migration and the US leads by far in either total number or overall percentage.

[RAGNAR]

Originally Posted by tdw

Condescending is one thing ... I took your post re a certain former German dictator as crossing a line called outright abuse. Get close to stepping over it again and you will be taking a vacation.

I just realized that you not only had the audacity to edit a member's post instead of taking it down and asking him to redo it, but you edited it without inform him of that action. Thank you, (edit)

Don't bother with the vacation thing. I won't be back.

(If anyone would like to contact me, please send a PM or an email.)

[knothead]

Originally Posted by RAGNAR

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Don't bother with the vacation thing. I won't be back.

(If anyone would like to contact me, please send a PM or an email.)

Good luck Rags. I have to point out that most mature people would simply apologize and move on instead of leaving, but whatever.
I probably won't be contacting you, but in the interest of good will, If you ever find yourself in central west Florida and you want to go for a sail, let me know. We can share a beer and talk about stuff. Fair warning though. If you ever compare me with Hitler to my face, I'll probably pop you in the nose.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SailKing1

The rate chart you posted from the many available in your link are based on per 1000 population.

Now go look at total migration and the US leads by far in either total number or overall percentage.

Demographers use rates per 1000 to be able to compare countries with disparate populations.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by erps

and why are we comparing current immigration stats to try and prove something about past immigration?

You are correct. The United States is no longer the country it once was.