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I love these boats! They're extremely forgiving in harsh winds and point VERY well. That said the swing keel system is the only poorly engineered piece on that boat, in my opinion. To fix it properly a pulley has to be installed in the upper recess of the keel slot. I've done this to mine and the swing keel problem is history.
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Was wondering, how did you find out that it has a swing keel? Mine has a center post; on one side it has a winch and a cleat, the other side supports the table... I was told that it has a shoal keel. 76 NA23 Would this indicate that I may have a swing keel also?
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From my understanding of sailing terminology (limited) a shoal keel is one that is a partial keel sort of a stub keel. On these models a swing keel is kept inside the shoal keel slot. The winch you speak of winches up the swing keel, usually the cable breaks at the exit point of the outer sheath cause the angle is too great. This also rubs away the lower cable fitting, sort of saws through it.
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North American 23

This week, I'll take posession of a 1977 NA23 in Texas. It's in great shape and its in a slip at a marina just fifteen minutes from my house. "Giddy" would best describe how I'm feeling right now. I can't wait until Sunday! Mike
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Well tell us more! Come on how much did you get her for???? How bout some pics??
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Where will you be sailing her?
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NA 23 in Texas

I traded my $2000 MacGregor 25 and $1500 cash. It's on Joe Pool Lake in the marina.
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And yet another one gets reeled in. Enjoy.
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Was wondering, how did you find out that it has a swing keel? Mine has a center post; on one side it has a winch and a cleat, the other side supports the table... I was told that it has a shoal keel. 76 NA23 Would this indicate that I may have a swing keel also?


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The Spirit 23 has a fixed keel. There were 2 models, a deep draft (very rare) and a shoal (shallow) draft. The keel on the shoal draft draws 24". That makes it easy to get to the beach and to get it on a trailer but won't point worth a damn. So, in order to have the best of both worlds, Glastron put a swing centerboard inside the keel. With the board down, the effective draft increases to 6' so the boat will point up quite well. It is about 4' long and made of balsa and fiberglass. It weighs less than 100#. The winch on my 79 model was located directly behind the ladder. The cable ran straight down and attached to the trailing edge of the centerboard so I never had the problem of chafing that Dennis did on WindyWay. You said that your winch was at the ctrpost. I can not imagine how they routed the cable from there to the rear of the keel. I guess they changed the design before the 79 models came out.
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The Shoal Keel/Swing Centerboard Discussion

Due to my MacGregor's 600 pound cast iron swing keel, I automatically assumed that since my new NA23 had a winch for a "swing keel", that it was a 500-600 pound iron or lead keel. In fact, I thought I read the keel was lead. I'm confused.

If the swing keel is balsa and fiberglass, is it subject to getting waterlogged? Even so, at 100 pounds, it must be pretty easy to remove and fix?

Dennis, have you posted the "fix" you talked about, someplace?

Mike
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