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Hi everyone. Name is Adrian and I am in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I am the proud new owner of a 1973 Pearson 30 (Hull 434, I believe. Need to double check) with the original Atomic 4! I sail out of Ashbridges Bay Yacht Club in Toronto.

Of course, like any new owner, I have questions. Many questions!!

Mine is not rigged properly. Owner we bought it from took off all the sail rigging to rebuild the deck core. After replacing core and deck fiberglass he never replaced the sail rigging.

For example: I have no Outhaul, no Cunningham, no boom vang, topping lift control sucks as it is not adjustable. No electrical wires leading from the cockpit to the mast either!

I must admit...I knew she needed some work before I bought her, but??????

Went sailing last week and it took 20 minutes to put up the main and Genoa as the main halyard is at cockpit with a line lock before the winch. The Halyard would run at the base of the winch as the line lock keeps it down too low.

I want to bring all the lines and controls to the cockpit and was hoping that you could help by sending me photos and description of your boats rigging.

Also looking for ideas and various help...such as...How does one turn in reverse!!!!! Rudder is almost useless backing up!!!!

So could you please send pics and ifno on your boats to adrianjohnm@hotmail.com so I can get some ideas on what to do?

Thanks. I will send a virtual beer to everyone who can help
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Hi everyone. Name is Adrian and I am in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I am the proud new owner of a 1973 Pearson 30....
Congratulations! Pearson P30s are fine boats! (Of course, we're just a bit biased .)

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with the original Atomic 4!
Moyer Marine - Atomic 4 Engine Rebuilding and Parts will be an indispensable resource for your A4 questions and needs. Trust me on this. There are forums dedicated to all aspects of the A4 over there.

Hint: Get the oil change kit. The one that replaces the plug on the port side of the engine with one with a bronze tube and a hose, with fittings, to hook to it. Coupled with the right oil extractor, will make oil changes actually enjoyable .

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Of course, like any new owner, I have questions. Many questions!!
Of course.

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For example: I have no Outhaul,
Confused by that one. The outhaul is contained entirely on or w/in the boom. Why would that have been removed when the deck was re-cored? If you've no outhaul, to what is the clew of your main secured?

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no Cunningham,
Our '76 P30, extensively re-rigged for racing, has no Cunningham, either. Doubt one was rigged on factory stock boats. I talked to the PO about it, once, and he just ran a line thru a turning block on the halyard organizer and straight back to a cam cleat next to the companionway. He'd rig it when he needed it and rely on one of his rather substantially-sized crew to just haul on it.

There used to be a really good thread, somewhere around here, on how to rig a Cunningham. I wasn't able to find it. The other site I hang on has two of them, tho:

The cunningham..how to make one, how to use one
Installing a Cunningham

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no boom vang,
A couple of blocks, one with a cam cleat, and some line and you've got yourself a vang. Or you can get either a solid vang or one of those fiberglass ones.

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topping lift control sucks as it is not adjustable.
Ours has a pair of small fiddle blocks on the end, one with a clam cleat, for length adjustment.

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No electrical wires leading from the cockpit to the mast either!
He took the wiring out and didn't replace it? You have no lights on the mast? That'll be a bit of a problem.

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Went sailing last week and it took 20 minutes to put up the main and Genoa as the main halyard is at cockpit with a line lock before the winch. The Halyard would run at the base of the winch as the line lock keeps it down too low.
Took me a minute to figure out what you meant.

Our halyards all run through clutches in front of the winches. Shouldn't be a problem, unless the cleat/lock/clutch is too close to the winch. Our clutches are... thinking... a foot and a half of so in front of the winches? The entry/exits stand a bit prouder of the deck than the average lock or cleat, too.

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I want to bring all the lines and controls to the cockpit and was hoping that you could help by sending me photos and description of your boats rigging.
I'll try to remember to take pictures, but it's pretty easy to describe.

All of our halyards run thru turning blocks attached to the halyard organizer at the base of the mast, thru deck organizers (blocks), thru the clutches and then to the winches--one on each side of the companionway.

Our vang is a couple of small fiddle blocks, one secured to the halyard organizer, the other to a small bail on the underside of the boom. The tail is long enough to reach back to the cockpit, but I do have to reach way forward to release the cam cleat.

We have no Cunningham atm. (It's on The List.)

The outhaul runs from the clew of the sail, thru a sheave inside the end of the boom, back forward inside the boom, around a sheave in the bottom of the boom, back, under the boom, thru a small Spinlock cleat (which, of course, ends-up right over the top of the companionway when the boom's centered--ask me how I know), then, finally, thru a small turning block to make it easy to haul down on.

Our mainsail reefing is relatively crude and limited, and, effectively, limited to the 1st reef. It's just a line that comes from a bail on the port side of the boom, up thru the first reefing point on the leech, down the starboard side of the sail, thru a sheave in the boom, forward inside the boom, out the starboard side nearby the gooseneck and back to a small standard cleat on the starboard side of the boom.

Both of our mainsails' luff reef points have been fitted with what our sailmaker calls "floppy rings" for ease of attachment to the hooks at the gooseneck.

For the kite: The halyard and the downhaul come back to the cockpit. The uphaul controls are on the mast. There's a pair of padeyes atop the cockpit coaming, near the stern, to which I secure turning blocks when we're flying a kite.

The foresail sheets run thru lead blocks on tracks on the toe rails, back thru turning blocks aft of the winches, and back forward to the winches. They're secured in clam cleats. (Which I hate for a variety of reasons, but I haven't figured-out how better to do.)

I think that covers it...? Oh yeah: The mainsheet. The PO moved the main traveler forward, so we now have mid-boom sheeting, and upgraded the traveler to a Harken windward sheeting traveler, which is a Beautiful Thing, lemme tell ya . We've since up graded the mainsheet purchase to 6:1, since The Admiral is usually on the helm and she mostly handles the mainsheet when we're double-handed. (I'm the deck monkey .)

Now I think I covered it all .

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Also looking for ideas and various help...such as...How does one turn in reverse!!!!! Rudder is almost useless backing up!!!!
Few sailboats maneuver well in reverse. In fact: Few single-engine boats maneuver well in reverse. Our little 18' powerboat with an I/O drive doesn't maneuver all that much better in reverse than does our 30' sailboat.

Jim
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Great info!

Adrian, good luck getting everything sorted out. Once you do, I'm sure you'll love the boat. They're a blast to sail.
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Thanks for assistance.

I see that the problem with the main halyard running on the base of winch is due to line lock being to close to winch. Line lock is only about 6 inches in front of winch.

As for the outhaul...well...that one is hard to answer. I have no idea why the PO did what he did to the boat. I do have a line connected to the outhaul, but no place to cleat it off to at the mast when it it pulled taught by hand!! Easy fix... Longer line leading to the cockpit winch.

Power to the mast is a problem. I have a small 8 x 8 hatch just aft the mast. I have my VHF cable running through that...So hatch must be open when VHF connected!! For mast light he told me there was wire in the companion step storage area and all he did was run it throught the port with it plugged into a 12V cigarette outlet!!!

When putting up the mast, I noticed the 6" - 8" shaft the mast goes on to had a hole in it. Is the wiring supposed to go throught that?

So much to do...Paint...Nonskid.

But she is solid!

That is another reason why I would like pics. To see where non skid goes as I have none left as the decks were recored with Airex (???) and new glass put down.

At least the Atomic 4 works!!!

Wondering if I bit of more than I can chew as this is my first boat.
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I see that the problem with the main halyard running on the base of winch is due to line lock being to close to winch. Line lock is only about 6 inches in front of winch.
What do you mean by "line lock?" Can you find an on-line picture of the type of cleat/lock/clutch you mean?

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I do have a line connected to the outhaul, but no place to cleat it off to at the mast when it it pulled taught by hand!! Easy fix... Longer line leading to the cockpit winch.
Way over-kill! You don't need to apply that much force to tighten a mainsail's foot, as a rule. Hell, even when we're going to weather in 15-20 kt winds I don't need that much force to tighten ours--even with the loose-footed main, IIRC.

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Power to the mast is a problem. I have a small 8 x 8 hatch just aft the mast.
That's added by the PO.

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I have my VHF cable running through that...So hatch must be open when VHF connected!!
Our VHF antenna is an 8' or so fiberglass one, mounted on the transom.

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For mast light he told me there was wire in the companion step storage area and all he did was run it throught the port with it plugged into a 12V cigarette outlet!!!
Good grief! Why in God's name did he do that, when he had the deck peeled-off, anyway? It would have been trivial to run/replace wiring to the mast at that point. Now.... well... I choose not to contemplate what it'd take now .

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When putting up the mast, I noticed the 6" - 8" shaft the mast goes on to had a hole in it. Is the wiring supposed to go throught that?
Yeah, it is.

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Wondering if I bit of more than I can chew as this is my first boat.
Everybody does

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Rigging on 73 Pearson 30

Does anyone have pictures of proper rigging on a 73 Pearson 30> We alraedy have a cunningham. The rest of the rigging is all screwed up
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