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seayalatermoonglow I watched your Toba video. Great stuff. Which boat was powering? Looks like you are on a Fisher, a sister ship of sorts to my Gulf. I would miss an outside wheel I think...

What was your anchoring like up the inlet? I've been around those parts quite a bit but never been inside Toba or Bute, but hope to some day.
Thanks bwind, the fishboat was under power, although I was driving for a while with not a lot of extra effort surprisingly enough.

No It's not a fisher, mine is very different. It's a Truant 33 pilothouse version and it has a cockpit helm as well as the wheel house helm. It has a fin keel with a skeg rudder so it's just as quick as many cruisers of it's size. It's a Bill Garden design, just like your Gulf 32.

I'm up Toba regularly and it's great but the video shows only overcast conditions, in clear weather, it's spectacular. There is excellent anchoring in Brem Bay half way up and it's pretty good protection from the outflows. The head of the inlet also offers good holding but no real protection from outflows but you can always surf it back to Brem River. There are also a few old logging floats along the way but they're the boomstick variety and some are a bit questionable. Well worth the trip up, shouldn't me missed.


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Arch- I don't think you understand the problem. It isn't harvested logs from the evil logging companies that are the problem (you see a few but not too many anymore), it's old logs and bits and pieces that have been on the beaches for a long, long time. The extremely high tides wash them off the beaches and then it takes awhile for them to find a new home. These are mostly trees that have washed down the rivers during floods and knockdowns along the shore. We had one big log wash away from in front of our place this winter that had been there forever. Nobody is going to come around and harvest the literally millions of beach logs between here and the north end of Vancouver Island, for one thing there isn't a market for half rotted timber.

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Arch- I don't think you understand the problem. It isn't harvested logs from the evil logging companies that are the problem (you see a few but not too many anymore), it's old logs and bits and pieces that have been on the beaches for a long, long time. The extremely high tides wash them off the beaches and then it takes awhile for them to find a new home. These are mostly trees that have washed down the rivers during floods and knockdowns along the shore. We had one big log wash away from in front of our place this winter that had been there forever. Nobody is going to come around and harvest the literally millions of beach logs between here and the north end of Vancouver Island, for one thing there isn't a market for half rotted timber.
Hey don't call a company I might work for evil! Then again many do use that term for most of the companies I have worked for, LOL.

Around here it is very much logging debris. The big saw blade marks would be the proof of that.

Most of the debris in this area show such signs but yes I was suggesting that even natural debris or such similar threats to navigation should be cleared by the logging companies.

This is the case in the Oil Sand industry. It was natural for the river to have an oil sheen on it from exposed soil. That was before the area was exploited. You can still find the odd oil sheen but if it comes from any of the oil sand sites it is addressed right away even if natural. David Suzuki does not care if the oil came from the earth naturally or leeched from a tailing pond.

I'm suggesting the logging companies get out ahead of this problem and start cleaning up the water ways and beaches.

I'm positive that boaters have been killed by their products. I see many deadheads that have been cut. One in particular that was at least 4' in diameter and 15' long, likely longer as I could only see so far into the depths. The only bit showing on the water surface was no larger than a slice of watermelon yet it weighted tons. They are out there, impossible to see and the person that put them there should bear some responsiblity. You or I would if we made a practice of it.

Have faith that the oceans are going to rise and flood the world, that plague and pestilence brought on by Climate Change is going to punish us for not believing. Please do as they say it is our only hope. :P
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