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Submarine versus freighter

This is unnerving. I would of thought that would be in contact with Seattle traffic

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A freighter captain's keen eye helped avert a run-in with a nuclear-powered American submarine in Juan de Fuca Strait, a body of water that splits Washington state and B.C. coasts, according to a U.S. periodical.

The incident, which saw the freighter and submarine come within 800 metres of each other, took place in early October but is only coming to light this week, says the Navy Times, which calls itself "an independent source for news and information for the navy community."

The Navy Times says that at around 8 a.m. PT on Oct. 12, the USS Kentucky ballistic-missile submarine had its periscope above water, but was otherwise hidden below the surface when it turned onto a new course that was blocked by a cargo ship.

The submarine's commanding officer, concerned about a trawler, ordered a change of course, but neither he nor the officer of the deck looked through the periscope to check if the course was clear.

The captain of the Totem Ocean ship Midnight Sun, which makes runs between Tacoma, Wash., and Anchorage, saw the periscope and began turning to avoid the collision.

After being informed via a radio call from the outside, the submarine's crew discovered their error and began manoeuvres to avoid hitting the ship.

The Navy Times, which filed a request for a report on the incident under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, wrote that Cmdr. Joseph Nosse, who was serving as commanding officer for the USS Kentucky, was fired on Oct. 19 for "inadequate leadership" stemming from a number of incidents.

The U.S. navy would not comment on the incident, and said it is policy not to discuss current submarine operations.
U.S. nuclear sub nearly hit freighter near B.C. - Technology & Science - CBC News
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At least that was a near miss.. remember this one from 1994?

Transportation Safety Board of Canada - MARINE Reports - 1994 - M94W0078
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At least that was a near miss.. remember this one from 1994?

Transportation Safety Board of Canada - MARINE Reports - 1994 - M94W0078
I use that incident to illustrate the need for accurate, regular plots and maintaining a good visual and radar watch. AIS is also great. I had two Canadian warships in a head-on situation as we were north of the TSS last June.
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You would think with all the high tech sonar equipment for listening to other vessels, they would be able to track a nearby freighter without having to actually look through the periscope. I've watched the subs come in Admiralty inlet several times, but those were the ones surfaced, escorted by two coast guard boats and two other big funny looking ships on either side or them. Kind of makes you wonder what's going by underneath you.
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I had a sub pass overtake me in Rosario Strait just south of Matia Island. When I looked behind me I thought I saw a port hand buoy overtaking.

There was no escort vessels. Of course it was in the 1990's.

There was crew in the conning tower. I suspect it was heading up to WG.

Last year I saw one being escorted out of San Diego Harbor.
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We were heading into The LI Sound through the race in the fog when low and behold look what appeared in front of us...from New London I am sure....The electronics on the boat acted funcky till they dropped out of sight. Large metal object I was told....degaussing I was told....jamming probably

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I had a trident come close behind me in Georgia Straight.Running fast with only conning tower showing. Good vis so no danger of collision. Yes ser, made me feel warm and secure, knowing my way of life is so protected by these trained foreign sailors and their nuclear weapons on their way to Nanoose.
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One of the eeriest experiences I've had while boating was going north toward Pt. Townsend early one morning and seeing something huge surface about a mile in front of me (I really didn't know what the hell it was for a few seconds). The sub went past me several hundred yards on my starboard side as the sun was rising over the mountains. They had a severe list to port (15-20 degrees, maybe a bit more) for some reason. The guys that were visible on the tower waved to me as they passed.
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One of our neighbors is a retired Sub driver and part time sailor that once described having come to parascope depth on one occasion during a cruise to transmit and receive message traffic. He said they raised the scope for a look around before raising their antenna mast and lo' and behold discovered a yacht flying the French tri-color yacht within 100 yards--with two crew on deck including a not unattractive young woman wearing only a bikini bottom. Evidently the Sub had a TV camera system connected to scope which they switched on for the conning tower monitor. The sailors evidently observed and waved to the parascope and the woman reportedly "mooned" them!

I have only seen one sub in the water from our boat in real life, in the early '70's when we lived in San Francisco and happened to be crossing from Sausalito to the City Front. The Ship was coming under the GG Bridge and we were buzzed by a Navy Helicopter and shortly later a CG Boat that told us to "hit the road" (as if the little 6hp Evenrude on our boat of the time would let us go faster than we were already sailing).
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Are military Subs required to answer a mayday call from a civilian craft when they are in operation at sea and the only vessel in the area??? I suspect so, but???
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