Propeller cage - SailNet Community
 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 Old 09-29-2013 Thread Starter
Maine Dub
 
34crealock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 215
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Propeller cage

Anyone ever put a prop cage on a PSC? Many of the areas I love to cruise in Maine are peppered with insane quantities of lobster gear which make passage nearly impossible to enjoy. I'm thinking that a loss of 1/2 to 1 knot would be worth it to allow me to just plow through the damn things with wreck less abandon.( well not quite wreckless) I can sail through them fairly snag free but with the engine running it's hard to avoid damaging entanglement( about $500 last time)

Al Pickering
PSC 34 #286
Coorie Doon
34crealock is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 09-30-2013
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 61
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Propeller cage

Is your problem really one of getting lobster pot warp in your prop? I find the prop rarely contacts the gear. More often the skeg that supports the rudder snags line.

Some folks get spurs to cut line when it fouls the shaft.

It is sad but true that Maine has three times more lobster traps than it has people residing in the state.

Bob Steneck
PSC 34 Christmas Cove, Maine
steneck is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 12 Old 09-30-2013 Thread Starter
Maine Dub
 
34crealock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 215
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Propeller cage

Bob, When I snag them sailing they catch on the skeg and can be pushed/cut off. When motoring they wind around the shaft/prop. The last one jammed so much rope that it pulled the shaft out over an inch and destroyed the flex drive thing. Usually it's a slightly submerged pot or toggle.

Al Pickering
PSC 34 #286
Coorie Doon
34crealock is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 12 Old 09-30-2013
Senior Member
 
Maine Sail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,890
Thanks: 20
Thanked 223 Times in 170 Posts
Rep Power: 16
       
Re: Propeller cage

The only good answer is to simply pay more attention and especially to the lay of the buoys. Also understand that in much of Pen Bay they use toggles which makes it even more difficult. A sharp eye is the best tool in the tool box.

A cage will likely destroy your sailing performance and turn you into a trawler with a stick. As a kid my lobster boat had one on it when I bought her. I got horrendous mileage and my overall performance stunk even with a large Cummins. The cage was also a weed trap creating even more drag. I removed it for the second season of ownership and it was as if I had bought a new boat. I can't even fathom the performance hit to a sailboat.

We don't even have a full skeg for protection, fin keel/partial skeg, yet have not snagged one in three years now..

Sharp eyes and a hook-knife are your friends. Oh and a wet suit... You may try Spurs too.. I don't use them, and won't, but others seem to like them..

______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.


Maine Sail is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 12 Old 09-30-2013 Thread Starter
Maine Dub
 
34crealock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 215
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Propeller cage

Maine, thanks for the reply. Drag increasing by the square of the velocity I would think that on a 5 to 6 knot boat it would be minimal as compared to a 20 knot boat. Not sure what the numbers would be. So many passages in Maine are so clogged with lobster gear that instead of altering my course every 150 feet I might make better time under power to go straight ahead at 1 knot less velocity and have time to glance at a chart or actually enjoy the scenery while I chug straight through the pesky hazards to navigation. Just a thought, but I could be wrong.

Al Pickering
PSC 34 #286
Coorie Doon
34crealock is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 12 Old 09-30-2013
Jd1
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 80
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: Propeller cage

I vote for an underwater sickle mower, preferrably bow mounted with a sensor that automatically deploys it when a crab/lobster/shrimp pod is detected.
34crealock likes this.
Jd1 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 12 Old 10-01-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 296
Thanks: 10
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Propeller cage

1 way i avoid the traps when goin down east is to go over the 200 foot edge into deeper water and turn back to shore upon reaching destination,this is also much faster than coast hugging and i can run the autopilot all day,much more relaxing,try it!
norsearayder is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to norsearayder For This Useful Post:
34crealock (10-01-2013)
post #8 of 12 Old 10-01-2013 Thread Starter
Maine Dub
 
34crealock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 215
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Propeller cage

Thanks, I agree going offshore gets you away from most of the pots. That's how we go up to Roque.

Al Pickering
PSC 34 #286
Coorie Doon
34crealock is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 12 Old 05-09-2015
Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: MA
Posts: 48
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Propeller cage

Has anyone tried linking the bottom back end of the keel to the skeg with a wire (I think I have seen this done on other boats). Presumably your chances of getting something hung on the skeg would be less.
jhwelch is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 12 Old 05-10-2015 Thread Starter
Maine Dub
 
34crealock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 215
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Propeller cage

I have a length of copper tubing going from the keel to the skeg. So far it has kept lobster gear out of the prop .

Al Pickering
PSC 34 #286
Coorie Doon
34crealock is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Propeller q brak Gear & Maintenance 13 02-11-2009 07:46 PM
CS 36T Propeller PSYCHI CS Yachts 3 01-12-2009 01:04 PM
What is your propeller ? negrini Gear & Maintenance 12 06-19-2008 10:05 AM
Faraday Cage TXS-ALAMO Gear & Maintenance 12 12-18-2006 03:51 PM
Propeller for 26X randers6 MacGregor 2 11-29-2006 05:24 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome