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Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

Hello all! Best wishes to everyone for a healthy and prosperous 2014.

Here's an update for those interested in our refit. Jo Beth arrived at the Hinckley facility in Savannah, GA in early November. Lisa and I spent the better part of two and a half days getting all the gear off. She's been de-rigged and the mast and boom stripped. The slow and painstaking process of inspections and compromises has begun.

First, I'm very happy to report that by all appearances, we don't have an issue with the mast compression post step. The sag in the cabin sole just aft and to the right [center line] of the compression post step is from a lack of sufficient structure beneath the cabin sole, and here's why: we don't have a standard 34 interior layout on Jo Beth. Instead, we have a U-shaped settee/dinette on the port side. The extra weight of the joinery of the ends which form the 'U', plus my big butt resting on it for 10+ years, seem to be the cause. A lesser sag is also happening at the opposite end.

The bad news is, because of this seating arrangement, some joinery removals will have to done to get the fuel tank out for inspections. More on that to follow.

Cost saved, cost added - sure to become a recurring theme.

The spars and rigging are also getting attention. The running rigging will all be replaced with new halyards, sheets, blocks, etc. The standing rigging all looks good, but tired. It will stand up to another three or so years of coastal service. We'll likely go ahead with replacing everything anyway. The mast is fine; all of the halyard winches require service, as do the sheet winches on deck, but the staysail halyard winch will be replaced. There is some material loss on the winch pads from corrosion and there are cracked welds on each spreader base, all which are regarded as repairable. Minor corrosion is on the mast base as well. Again, repairable.

The boom - now that's another story. I stopped counting the cracks [around the end caps, mainsheet bails, cleats, etc.] at 10. We've been working with LeFiell, the OM, to build a replacement.

The sails are all going to the UK Loft in Charleston, SC for evaluation/repair. I think our genoa is good, as is the staysail, but our main is visibly tired.

We've met with our canvas and cushions shop person, the contractor installing the reverse cycling AC and air cooled refrigeration unit, and all of the yard trades foremen.

Jo Beth will also be painted and re-striped on her topsides, have minor gelcoat repairs made on her house and deck which will then be polished hard, have her mast and boom painted, [the new boom comes painted from LeFiell], get new cockpit grates, and have a myriad of other jobs done. Hinckley says 3-4 months so we're anticipating 4-6. [This isn't a slam against Hinckley - Lisa and I are well acquainted with what we affectionately call 'the boatyard follies.']

Lastly, we're redoing our blog. Stay tuned for more.
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Re: Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

And a Happy New Year to you.

I was hoping you would keep us sister ship owners updated on what you were doing with JoBeth - obviously. a labor of love.

Looking forward to meeting you shortly and getting more insight on the project.

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What did they quote you to paint the mast?
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Re: Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

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And a Happy New Year to you.

I was hoping you would keep us sister ship owners updated on what you were doing with JoBeth - obviously. a labor of love.

Looking forward to meeting you shortly and getting more insight on the project.

Hugh Macnaughton/Ariel
Hello Hugh,

Welcome to the PSC forum! There's lots of good information here and folks here. I'm sure you'll find it very helpful.

I will see you later in the week -
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What did they quote you to paint the mast?
Well, it's being revisited now, given that the replacement boom will come from LeFiell painted and that we have some repairs to do on the mast. Then, there's the issue of matching the boom and mast colors...

However, the original quote to paint both the mast and boom, including unstepping and stepping, undressing, and reassembly, was $4,975.
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A yard up here quoted me 12000 for mine. I declined. I will touch it up with a rattle can. Cheers Al
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Re: Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

We had our mast repainted 3 years ago. We paid around $5k for the soda blasting and paint. It looked awesome for the first year, but then it started to bubble in places - mostly at the ends and around welded fittings. We were careful to ensure that all the fastners were coated with Tef-Gel and the mast step is aluminum to aluminum contact so it isn't galvanic corrosion (at least not entirely). The yard warned us that bubbling/flaking was a real possibility beforehand. They even refused to re-paint our bomar hatches and insisted that we have them powder coated instead because of this problem.
In the end, I wish I would have saved the money and left the mast and boom alone. In another year or so it will look no different than before we painted, maybe even worse.
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We had our mast repainted 3 years ago. We paid around $5k for the soda blasting and paint. It looked awesome for the first year, but then it started to bubble in places - mostly at the ends and around welded fittings. We were careful to ensure that all the fastners were coated with Tef-Gel and the mast step is aluminum to aluminum contact so it isn't galvanic corrosion (at least not entirely). The yard warned us that bubbling/flaking was a real possibility beforehand. They even refused to re-paint our bomar hatches and insisted that we have them powder coated instead because of this problem.
In the end, I wish I would have saved the money and left the mast and boom alone. In another year or so it will look no different than before we painted, maybe even worse.
Interesting. Our winches were put directly onto the aluminum pads welded to the mast, and that's where our worst corrosion is. Clearly, bronze touching aluminum is bad for the aluminum. When the winches go back on, they'll have nylon pads [or something similar] to insulate the aluminum from the bronze, as will anyplace where aluminum contacts other metals.

Tef-Gel will be used with everything that's bolted, screwed, or otherwise fastened to the mast and boom. I'm very surprised to hear about the mast/boom paint blistering/bubbling after just a year. Powder coating is a good way to go. However, if the coating is ever compromised, I understand repairs can be difficult to achieve.

I'm glad we don't have the old aluminum framed Bomar hatches to deal with though. We replaced those years ago with another Bomar hatch, but with nonmetallic frames. They've been stellar.
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Re: Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

We just put a fresh powder coat on our boom here in San Diego. Came in around $400. Not too bad, but we did all the work ourselves and dropped it off at the oven. When we remounted the winches, we used PVC tape like Shurtape as a backing. Also filled the new taps liberally with 4000 before rebedding the machine screws. Hoping that keeps corrosion to a minimum.
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Re: Happy New Year from Jo Beth - and a Refit Update

Jobeth, what hatch did you replace the bomars with?
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