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Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

The Schaefer genoa tracks on Crazy Fish are looking pretty beat up, particularly when sitting on a freshly varnished cap rail. Also with 9 initial coats of varnish and a few maintenance coats the buildup of varnish under the T-track is such that the cars are very difficult to move, particularly without a rubber mallet.

The solution I am thinking of is to replace the track with Harken track that supports ball-bearing cars - where the base of the cars don't ride directly above the cap rail surface.

It looks like a major job to replace the genoa tracks
1.) Unbolt and remove the current track
2.) Bend the new track to the curve of the existing ones and end up with the curve and the holes lining up or filling the current holes and drilling new ones.
3.) Install new ones so that they remain as water tight as the factory installed ones.

So I was wondering if anyone else has experience with such a project and/or any recommendations on how to get the job done or alternatives.

Thanks

Marc Hall
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

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The Schaefer genoa tracks on Crazy Fish are looking pretty beat up, particularly when sitting on a freshly varnished cap rail. Also with 9 initial coats of varnish and a few maintenance coats the buildup of varnish under the T-track is such that the cars are very difficult to move, particularly without a rubber mallet.

The solution I am thinking of is to replace the track with Harken track that supports ball-bearing cars - where the base of the cars don't ride directly above the cap rail surface.

It looks like a major job to replace the genoa tracks
1.) Unbolt and remove the current track
2.) Bend the new track to the curve of the existing ones and end up with the curve and the holes lining up or filling the current holes and drilling new ones.
3.) Install new ones so that they remain as water tight as the factory installed ones.

So I was wondering if anyone else has experience with such a project and/or any recommendations on how to get the job done or alternatives.

Thanks

Marc Hall
Crazy Fish - Maintaining, Upgrading and Sailing a Crealock 37
Not exactly the same job..
Replaced the mainsheet traveller track having the same challenges with aligning the holes.

Lewmar have tracks where you insert a hex head bolt inside the track - no visible holes at all.


Read more here http://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?i...e=48&channel=1
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

I wonder How you affix tightly the Lewmar Track if you can not reach the heads of the screws?
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

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I wonder How you affix tightly the Lewmar Track if you can not reach the heads of the screws?
You slide a hex head bolt into the underside of the track.
The bolt will not be able to rotate - just screw the nut onto the bolt

From the catalog (source: http://www.lewmar.com/downloadcatalo...&id=7598&lid=0)
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Sliding bolt track have a smooth clean profile
with no visible fixings and can be retro-fitted
using original bolt holes – no need to worry
about old track pattern holes matching up
with a new track. The track is designed to
permit a washer to fit on each bolt between
the track and deck to ensure a secure seal.

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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

MarcHall
Did you do the project?

and to anybody
Do you know what kind of bolts are used to connect the Tracks to the Cap Rail? How difficult is to Unbolt and remove the current tracks?
Thanks
Jacob

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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

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MarcHall
Did you do the project?

and to anybody
Do you know what kind of bolts are used to connect the Tracks to the Cap Rail? How difficult is to Unbolt and remove the current tracks?
Thanks
Jacob
No the project is still in the queue.

Currently rewiring the solar panels, installing a Blue Sky MPPT charger. Using Buccaneer Water Proof connectors (available at Downwind Marine and various electrical suppliers) to enable quick disconnects on the panels so they can be removed for periods when I will only be day sailing or other reasons.

The former Solar Panel charge controller had a built in display and was mounted behind the navigation station above the quarter berth. This was an area where PS installed a couple of chart tubes above a flat shelf for additional chart storage. This go converted to be the home for a dimmer switch, the charge controllers and the Kenwood Ham Radio. Tight run for all the wires and to and from the charge controller. The Blue Sky MPPT has provisions for a remote display so I was able to mount the controller at the aft end of the quarter berth closer to the panels which when mounted are located on the radar arch. At some point I will acquire the remote display and mount it somewhere around the nav station.



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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

You will enjoy the Buccaneer connectors.
I am using them at the connection inside the Mast. They are waterproof.
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

The genoa tracks are bolted using 1/4x20 flathead screws on NiftyNickers I'll bet same on yours. Suggest Garhauer for new track and cars,beautiful equipment reasonably priced. No connection with Garhauer,

Dianne and Chuck Burke S/V Nifty Nickers C37 #139
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

Do they have a Nut on the other side, that I need to hold in order to release them?
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Re: Genoa Tracks on Cap Rail

Yes there are nuts on the machine screws.On my C37 they can be accessed from inside the bulwark-it helps to have small hands

Good luck,
Dianne and Chuck Burke S/V NiftyNickers
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