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Crealock-34 head

I'm looking to replace the head in my Crealock-34 with a Groco Model K, but only have approx. 11" from bulkhead to the edge of the raised deck platform, any ideas? Almost every head I have considered seems to require at least 12" front to back.

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Re: Crealock-34 head

My 1988 PSC 34 was delivered from the factory with a Grocko model K.
My guess is a model K would fit your setup as well.
Well built unit as well. Just had mine rebuilt. So it lasted 25 years before a rebuild. Not bad.

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Re: Crealock-34 head

Thanks, that looks like the way to go. I've noticed in some photos on line that they appear to mounted at a slight angle.

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The Grocko is the throne worthy of a king. It uses a full sized toilet seat as opposed to the little ones in the cheaper jabscos. Believe me ! You will not regret spending the money on a full sized with Grocko quality. There is a reason why PSC equips their boats with these toilets. Thats because they are the kind of quality one would expect on anything that comes pre-installed on a PSC. Mounting at an angle would be nice.

There is a huge difference in quality from the model K to a $199 Jabsco.
I know cuz I had that Jabsco on my Cal 34. Had to rebuild that thing every year it seemed.

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Re: Crealock-34 head

I hadn't realized they were the factory choice, but makes sense now. I had assumed they had a bigger footprint being full size. Had one on my Niagara-35 and you're right it never let me down. We must have sister ships, Fuujin is hull#109, 1988. Cheers

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Re: Crealock-34 head

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I've noticed in some photos on line that they appear to mounted at a slight angle.
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Good discussion, thx

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Re: Crealock-34 head

We have looked closely at almost every head made. The Grocco K is the only one we could find that fit the 34 with no modification. The Compact PHII fits with minor modification, but not nearly as well as the Grocco. We could not get a Grocco that worked unfortunately. Hopefully they have fixed the problem now.

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Re: Crealock-34 head

I just did a complete sanitary system rebuild. The Groco Head has a rebuild kit you can buy. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined, you can rebuild in about 4 hours. That includes striping and repainting. If you are replacing the head you really should go ahead and pull the hoses too. The Trident hoses in Hush were on their last leg and we starting to blister. The hose replacement is a bear and having to buy 19 foot of hose expensive. But now that I am done, I am very confident that our head will last.

The last thing I would suggest would be to remove and replace the holding tank cover. The factory installed model is plywood with a thin layer of gelcoat on the poopy side. I replaced with 3/8" plywood with white formica on the inside. I was going to go with starboard but silicone sealant does not like to stick to it.

Anyway, good luck with the head. Nothing is worse than having the Admiral (Wife) upset because she has to tea bag in the ocean.
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Re: Crealock-34 head

Just heard that Groco heads are back ordered for a year. Seems like production problems. They must have moved their production to China.

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