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I'm considering Awl Gripping my hull. Thoughts/advice?
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We switched from AwlGrip to Alexseal about 4 years ago. Current product, made by the inventor of AwlGrip, after his non-compete ran out from selling AwlGrip. Both are good products, but Alexseal is supposed to be more easily repaired (I have infact had it repaired and it's undetectable). Some say AwlGrip really can't be repaired.

Both really need to be professionally applied, but there are some brave souls out there.


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We did our own Awlgrip paint job.. certainly didn't turn out "Pro" but it was a huge improvement nontheless. We had a bit of a team, with spouses mixing whilst spraying. I'd say the biggest 'downfall' (which was mostly only visible close up and in certain light/angles) was amateur prep.

Based on what I've heard since, like Minnie I'd probably give Alexseal a go next time.

But it's a ton of work, and had we been smarter/more meticulous about prep it would have been an even better result. Also highly suggest, if you DIY, you pick a light, forgiving colour.

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My last boat was painted with Imron and I found it much easier to maintain over time than my experience with AwlGrip, your could compound and buff the finish just like gelcoat. My underastand is that the AwlCraft product has more the properties of Imron, perhaps a local materials scientist will chip in on this.

For AwlGrip versus AwlCraft, see Repairing Topcoat, Awlgrip vs. Awlcraft and Awlgrip or Awlcraft 2000? which is best?

Regardless if you want a yacht-quality finish, have the boat professionally sprayed, and for long-term appearance, use a white finish and it will less show damage over time.

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Darker the color, the more unforgiving this is. Preparation is everything. Do it wrong, and you're boat will look like a funhouse mirror. Do it right, and you can shave in your reflection. From my friends in the business, I believe Mini's advice on Alexseal is correct.

I wish I didn't like dark colored topsides.
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My last boat was painted with Imron and I found it much easier to maintain over time than my experience with AwlGrip, your could compound and buff the finish just like gelcoat. My underastand is that the AwlCraft product has more the properties of Imron, perhaps a local materials scientist will chip in on this.

For AwlGrip versus AwlCraft, see Repairing Topcoat, Awlgrip vs. Awlcraft and Awlgrip or Awlcraft 2000? which is best?

Regardless if you want a yacht-quality finish, have the boat professionally sprayed, and for long-term appearance, use a white finish and it will less show damage over time.
Just be a little careful of the 9 year old threads. They are worth a read to understand the basic paint differences between Awlgrip and Awlcraft style paints (although I glanced by one post that was factually incorrect....... hint-give more credibility to MaineSail descriptions that others).

Quickly, the Awlgrip is much harder paint, therefore more durable, The pigment and clear coat separate while it's hardening, creating the outer layer that protects and shines. The Awlcraft has pigment throughout the paint and, while more prone to wear and tear, can be compounded back to a fresh layer. You can't compound Awlgrip, because you'll just remove the clear coat.

Since these dated threads, enter Alexseal on the scene. It is a paint that is forumlaicly tough, like Awlgrip, but has the pigment throughout. Best of both worlds.

Captain's choice. I do think the Acrylic Awlcraft is easier for a DIY project. We're happy with Alexseal.


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Re: Awl Grip

Just had my 30 year old PS done. It was originally dark green, but years of baking in the sun caused the mat to print through in spots. If you boat is showing any print through you really need to do a light color. I chose whisper gray for the topsides and it came out beautifully.

This is definitely not a do it yourself job if you lack auto or boat painting experience. Due to the extreme gloss, any imperfections stick out like a sore thumb. This means, proper prep, proper spray technique and you need to do it indoors as any dust or dirt will show from several feet away.

Note that new paint will probably not increase the value of your boat a nickle, but it will look brand new.

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Thanks to all. If I am going to do it, I would definitely have it done professionally. I would want it to be dark green though, and from what people say it may make any flaws in the hull really stand out. Sure would look nice though...
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