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help needed choosing horizontal or vertical windlass

Winter is here in NE and time to tackle some projects. One I am wrestling with is the choice of horizontal vs vertical electric windlass for my PSC Crealock 31. I could use some advice. So far I have decided that if I go vertical it will most likely be the Muir Storm 1250 w/ a glass raised deck piece made by PSC. Is the anchor locker deep enough to handle, trouble free, a rope/chain combination rode?( I did not have much luck with this arrangement on a previous boat.)
Does anyone have first hand experience with a lofrans horizontal caymen or kobra on a 31? Share with me what works or what you would do differently.
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Steve,

I had a Muir vertical on Asylum, manual. The combo chain/rode fed perfectly into the anchor locker. I chose the vertical because it occupied less real estate than a horizontal. I also chose manual because the ground tackle on a 31 is light enough, in contrast with a 40 foot boat, that the simplicity captured me. I never regretted the manual capstan and I never wished for electric.

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While I greatly respect Larry's knowledge and projects I chose heavy duty. I went 175' 5/16 chain on one side and nylon on the other. These are for a 35# Bruce and 35# plow.

I looked at Muir and Lofrans but went with the US made Ideal. I have no regrets, only get compliments from the looks and I could kedge Talisman off a rock bed if necessary with that windlass. Before you buy anything call Cliff at Ideal Windlass. Also you might read Practical Sailor - about a year or so ago.

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I have a Maxwell horizontal...

It's advantages are that it is easy to service and even though it is above deck it is completely enclosed and water proof including the electric motor. I have seen verticals with the electric motor sitting unprotected in the anchor well.

Positive down as well as positive up is also a great advantage in helping control the anchor drop...before I fitted that switch the 122lb Rocna in semi-free fall was a lethal weapon.
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I went with ideal too. Just call cliff directly at ideal. He owns the company and will sell it to you direct. He is also available to call and talk to if you have any questions after you buy. You can't get this level of service often and I felt that the quality of the product was top of the line.
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On First Sight when we purchased the boat last summer, we went with the recommendation of the dealer: a Lewmar Pro-Series H1000 (horizontal).

The housing is 100% stainless steel (a plus) but it lacks a second drum for line (a minus).

My use will be light--I have 100 feet of chain/100 feet of rope. I doubt if I will ever get past the chain here on the Chesapeake.

Cost was a serious issue because the boat was new and we were inundated with all the new boat costs.

The east coast service rep is here in Annapolis, so should service be a problem, should be easily obtained.
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