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Yacht Specialties Idler Pulley

One of the idlers in my YS Steering system failed this weekend. Sort of ruined a nice day of sailing.
Any one have a spare or a leftover from a steering upgrade that they would be willing to sell?

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Adam,

One of mine failed a few years ago. I believe I saved the bits. I will look tonight to see which parts I have.

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Thanks. I'd like to hear more about how yours failed also. Maybe its time for me to bite the bullet and think about a new edson pedestal or do what I really want and go back to a tiller.
Mine failed with a pop after a really ugly jibe in about 15-20 knots. I wasn't steering at the time so I don't know what kind of loads could have been on it but it really shouldn't have been anything to crazy. I'm sorta baffled.

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Adam,

Mine failed with mixed seas, there were very heavy following seas out of the south plus heavy seas from the west. There was someone who had very little experience at the helm while I was taking care of something else so I think he was fighting the helm.

Later, when I tried to figure out what caused the problem it looked suspiciously like the steering cables were a little too loose.

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If there are no parts missing, you could fix that with epoxy.

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No Luck

Adam,

Sorry, I thought I had bought two and replaced both but I only bought and replaced the bad one. All I have is the wheel which you still have.

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What did you do after the failure, did you use the emergency tiller?
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John,
Thanks for looking. Do you remember where you bought yours? I've sent emails to several used gear/consignment stores on both coasts with no luck yet.

Tom,
Well the emergency tiller that was in my boat when I bought it is a joke. I am assuming it is factory. It is a 12-14 inch long aluminum pipe with a slot cut to go over the radial drive bolt. On top it has a wooden hadle about 12 inches long. It wouldn't go all the way in because it measures 1.5 inches o.d. and the ruuder shaft is 1.5 inches i.d. A little corrosion and its not going in. I tried it later to straighten the rudder while being towed back to my slip and there's not even close to enough leverage.
Luckily we were running down wind when it happened and got the engine started and the sails down. The boat tracked beautifully and we were only about a mile (very straight course) from my marina. Since only one idler broke the cables were still attached and we could keep the rudder from going to to one stop or the other, we just couldn't turn very well. once we got to the marina a little "tugboat" help from a friend in a Whaler got used tied up to an outside dock.
As soon as we got sails down I took the windlass handle forward and got the anchor ready to deploy but didn't need to. One thing I noticed once we got back and took the cover down to see what was wrong, was that the cables were pretty kinked from the lock to lock turns we were doing when we were trying to figure out what was going on. They're gonna need to be replaced too. So as soon as I get this fixed my priority is going to be to make an emergency tiller that really works and to order a spare chain and cable set before taking off on anything more than a daysail.

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Adam,

I believe I got the parts from Edson but I will check tonight to be sure.

I had exactly the same problem with the emergency tiller. I could not believe Pacific Seacraft made a mistake like that so I blamed it on the previous owner. Looks like the factory was to blame.

When I had the bottom painted I asked the yard to grind down the metal and now it works great. Too short of course but much linger and you start hitting the helm.

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Adam,

I talked to the admiral. I did not get it from Edson. I got them from Minneys in Costa Mesa. MINNEY'S YACHT SURPLUS - WE MAKE BOATING AFFORDABLE (949)548-4192 I will be glad to run down there if you need me to check that they have the right part. Always fun to look around there anyway. Massive place.

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