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At the same time, we're also planning to change out the associated running rigging, including the mainsheet blocks and of course, the traveler control line and the mainsheet itself. Our main halyard, topping lift, and reefing lines and sheaves are to be replaced as well.
What type of sailing do you do? Is weight a concern? Do you sail with gloves? I'm assuming dacron sails?

Traveler:
Salsa line. It's what I have on my boat 5/16"-3/8"
Apex 5/16"
Buzz line 5/16

Mainsheet:
Apex - used to have it, was too fat for my blocks, just changed to MLX in 5/16", won't have a report until the spring.
Salsa line is also nice, but a little less grippy.

Main halyard: spend some money here.
All the top brands will cost some money, look into blended cores if you want to save some coin. It will be a trade off. If you use VPC or MLX for a halyard, they will stretch more than Warpspeed, Endurabraid, V100, etc. But will be better than Polyester double braid. Please do not use Sta-set or Sta-Set X here.

Topping lift:
This is where you use the cheap stuff. Whatever you got that isn't too big will work. 1/4" if it needs to be adjusted, or smaller if it's just a 'strop'/penant.

Reefing lines:
Chafe resistance and low stretch are priorities above all else. Polyester works, but not real well (stretchy). To keep it simple go with a double braid and look into a Dyneema core, if you can't swing the cost, VPC or MLX.

I've used all those lines except V100 I think, so ask away if you have questions.

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What type of sailing do you do? Is weight a concern? Do you sail with gloves? I'm assuming dacron sails?

Traveler:
Salsa line. It's what I have on my boat 5/16"-3/8"
Apex 5/16"
Buzz line 5/16

Mainsheet:
Apex - used to have it, was too fat for my blocks, just changed to MLX in 5/16", won't have a report until the spring.
Salsa line is also nice, but a little less grippy.

Main halyard: spend some money here.
All the top brands will cost some money, look into blended cores if you want to save some coin. It will be a trade off. If you use VPC or MLX for a halyard, they will stretch more than Warpspeed, Endurabraid, V100, etc. But will be better than Polyester double braid. Please do not use Sta-set or Sta-Set X here.

Topping lift:
This is where you use the cheap stuff. Whatever you got that isn't too big will work. 1/4" if it needs to be adjusted, or smaller if it's just a 'strop'/penant.

Reefing lines:
Chafe resistance and low stretch are priorities above all else. Polyester works, but not real well (stretchy). To keep it simple go with a double braid and look into a Dyneema core, if you can't swing the cost, VPC or MLX.

I've used all those lines except V100 I think, so ask away if you have questions.
Thanks for the info. Since we're moving ahead with other projects (plumbing, mechanical/electrical, etc.) over the next couple of months, we've put the traveler install and running rigging replacement on that infamous back burner. We'll be ready to tackle it come springtime, but at the moment we've not made decisions on the replacement line type as of yet. Most of what we had was Sta-Set, and too oversized.

To answer your other questions; we rarely sail with gloves, and we only race on other people's boats. We're strictly cruisers and for the next couple of years, our cruising will be limited to coastal passages and inshore, meaning bay, sound and river sailing.

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I'm glad you realize that the old stuff was too big. This creates a lot of friction, and adds weight and expense where you don't need it. This is my #1 complaint with most boat owers. The lines barely fit the sheaves when new, and now that they're old and fuzzy, they drag through the sheave box, clutches, and blocks.

Lines have come a long way, and we should take advantage of it.

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I'm glad you realize that the old stuff was too big. This creates a lot of friction, and adds weight and expense where you don't need it. This is my #1 complaint with most boat owers. The lines barely fit the sheaves when new, and now that they're old and fuzzy, they drag through the sheave box, clutches, and blocks.

Lines have come a long way, and we should take advantage of it.
Oh yes, we were very much aware of the oversize issue. We weren't sailing offshore or long distances, and more or less fell into the 'we'll get to it next haulout' trap. Of course, it never got done until something bigger, the near failure of the traveler, forced the issue.

We're definitely dropping the line sizes and considering all of the choices for material, performance, etc with the replacements.

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