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converting sloop to cutter orion 27

anyone converted an orion 27 sloop to a cutter rig? any structural work required?
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Assuming that you'll be attaching the tack of the staysail at the stem, I wouldn't think that you would need to beef up the deck or anything. However, you will probably need to add running backstays. Take a look at other Orions and see how they rigged their staysail.

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orion 27 have running backs? the ones i saw did not seem to have such.
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orion 27 have running backs? the ones i saw did not seem to have such.
I looked at a few pics on the web and it would appear that many Orions with a staysail don't have runners. However, my search did come across a couple of mentions of such. My guess is that most of the time the mast wouldn't need the extra support. But, if one got caught in really nasty conditions, where it would be logical to use a deeply reefed main and staysail without a jib, runners might very well keep the mast from buckling (or at least give the skipper one less thing to worry about).

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I owned a 1983 factory cutter-rigged Orion. You will need to add a forstay to fly the staysail on. The attachments for the forestay consisted of a welded on attachment point on the front of the mast, and a lower chainplate on top of the aft end of the bowsprit. The lower attachment was simply a bent stainless steel tang (about 1.5" wide X 3/16 thick) that was secured under one of the bolts that held the bowsprit down to the deck. Our boat (as did most cutter rigged Orions) had a self tending staysail set up with a boom. There was a traveller track for the staysail sheet just in front of the mast. The staysail sheet then ran back on top of the cabin to a cleat beside the companionway. Some Orions didn't have the staysail boom, but I thought it worked well and liked it. We did not have running backstays. Lefiell in Los Angeles built the original spars, and may have the dimensions of the boon if you decide to go that way.
The Orion is a great boat, we lived aboard and cruised the west coast of Mexico, no problems.
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