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pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

Hi Group,

I post this as others may have found a similar problem to my friend Bill. His dark green 34 had faded and chalked badly after a couple years in the Caribbean sun. A contractor locally offered to wet sand and compound the gelcoat as an alternative to the repaint Bill was considering. WE had him do a sample which looked great - so the whole entire hull was wet sanded, buffed and waxed to a like new stunning shine. This job cost $2000. You can see photos on my website, in the 34' range.

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Re: pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

I like this... my green PSC34 was awlgripped green and looks beautiful... but I've already dinged the crap out of the bow thanks to a set of heavy mooring pennants and a twisted mooring ball chain... I can't fix those dings!!! Also, I'd like to feel like I can bump a dock now and then without destroying this beautiful awlgrip job.

I wonder if when the awlgrip fades (or I destroy enough of it), I can do this wetsand/buff/wax to restore Emerald?

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Hi Group,

I post this as others may have found a similar problem to my friend Bill. His dark green 34 had faded and chalked badly after a couple years in the Caribbean sun. A contractor locally offered to wet sand and compound the gelcoat as an alternative to the repaint Bill was considering. WE had him do a sample which looked great - so the whole entire hull was wet sanded, buffed and waxed to a like new stunning shine. This job cost $2000. You can see photos on my website, in the 34' range.

I hope this informational helps someone
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Re: pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

I spent the (thankfully warm) winter acid cleaning, then wet sanding (three different grits), then compounding, then polishing and finally waxing the hull of my 1990 31. It literally looks new, but I had the help of an off-white hull, rather than a dark color. I used the system (and the products) outlined by Maine Sail here: Tips For A Great Buff Wax - SailboatOwners.com.

Bob, I think you are out of luck with an Awlgrip hull. Awlgrip does make a restorer product, but I don't think you can wet sand, etc. The paint film is quite thin compared to gel coat.

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Re: pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

Yeah that's what I hate about awlgrip... I think that in 5 years or so I'll be ready to redo the hull... I'm hoping at that point to wetsand off the awlgrip, get back to the original hull, and bring the original hull back to life.

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I spent the (thankfully warm) winter acid cleaning, then wet sanding (three different grits), then compounding, then polishing and finally waxing the hull of my 1990 31. It literally looks new, but I had the help of an off-white hull, rather than a dark color. I used the system (and the products) outlined by Maine Sail here: Tips For A Great Buff Wax - SailboatOwners.com.

Bob, I think you are out of luck with an Awlgrip hull. Awlgrip does make a restorer product, but I don't think you can wet sand, etc. The paint film is quite thin compared to gel coat.

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Re: pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

We also had a good many dings around the bow - life on the hook. When we were in the Core Creek yard at Beaufort for a bottom job I had the painter touch up our flag blue Awlgrip with a some sanding and a spray gun. Problem solved and it was relatively inexpensive. I kept the left-over paint and use it to touch up minor dings.

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Re: pacific seacraft 34 hull restore

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Yeah that's what I hate about awlgrip... I think that in 5 years or so I'll be ready to redo the hull... I'm hoping at that point to wetsand off the awlgrip, get back to the original hull, and bring the original hull back to life.
Well the gelcoat is only so thick. The wetsand/polish of the gelcoat does remove some of it and eventually you are done and the only solution is to paint it (Awlgrip or something else) or re-gelcoat it.

With a new gelcoat application you will probably end up with a fairly thick layer that can then go thru the wet sand/buff cycle a few times. With awlgrip the surface prep (filling in the bad spots, sanding everything down to smooth surface before applying the thin awlgrip) is time consuming. With gelcoat probably less as you end up with a thick layer. But once applied the gelcoat surface will orange peel and you will need to do extensive sanding/buffing to get it to look like you want it. Possibly two months of full time work.

I have not done either to Crazy Fish but after the last buffing some of the
fiberglass is showing thru the gelcoat in one location about 2 inches square and the restored shine did not seem to last as long as in the past.

So my comments are based on research I have been doing online as well as talking with others who have gone the awlgrip or re-gelcoating path.

Or just ignore it and go sailing which is my current choice.

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