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sweetb60 02-19-2013 11:03 PM

Water damage to cabin sole
 
We are looking at a PS 37 that has visible water damage to the cabin sole. The access panels over the fuel tank are warped and have to be pried up to look beneath. The edges of the sole around the panels are discolored and there are some soft spots. There is also a wet wood strip directly in front of the head. Damage does not appear to extend under the settees ( but not 100% sure of that). Both hatches (salon and v-berth) leak. This appears to be the water source which caused the damage. Is replacing the cabin sole feasible? Not knowing the extent of the damage (under the settees, etc) should we run away as fast as we can? Can anyone recommend a craftsman/woodworker or yard on the east Florida coast (Stuart,Fl) who could give us an educated opinion on the current condition and cost to repair?

Faster 02-19-2013 11:39 PM

Re: Water damage to cabin sole
 
Sounds like a prolonged leakage situation.. I'm sure it's all 'replaceable' but if you can't do it yourself it's going to be quite costly. Also, as you've said, checking further for more hidden damage is important right now.

In today's market, unless there other compelling features to this particular example you might want to keep looking.

jimgo 02-20-2013 02:15 AM

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I agree with Faster, I'd keep looking. Depending on where and how the hatches are leaking, there may be issues on the deck surrounding the hatches, such as soft spots. If the leaks weren't causing so much damage to the interior, it might be worth the risk (and might be worth the cost of a survey or renting of a moisture meter). But you'll need to entirely fix the hatch leaks before you fix the cabin sole, and if you haven't budgeted for those repairs (including their impact on your usage of the boat), you may be in for a big surprize. If she's an otherwise remarkable boat, or a fa tastic deal, then maybe. Otherwise, keep looking.

wsmurdoch 02-20-2013 08:03 AM

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By the time water is over the cabin sole, it is also over the oil fill on the engine, the dampner plate in the bell housing, and the vent on the clutch. You may have lots of price leverage with this boat. Use it wisely and you may have a real deal.

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes

Alannc44 02-20-2013 02:03 PM

Re: Water damage to cabin sole
 
I had, what sounds like, a very similar leak. It turned out to be water filling up the inside of the mast (from trickling in from halyard lines) and then overflowing through the eye where the wiring harness goes down the center of the mast into the cabin. That little strip of wood was the give-away. Once I removed that I could see how the water followed the wiring harness. Since I keep my boat in Washington, NC PSC fixed it immediately. (There wasn't much damage to mine as I caught it pretty quickly). The long term solution is to drill two weep holes into the bottom of the mast in order to let the mast drain. This seems to be a common problem for a lot of people on many brands of boats. The wiring harness comes up through a short section of pvc pipe. The top where the wires comes through is usually plugged to prevent water from passing below, but you know how that goes over time. At any rate, who wants a mast full of water? ~Alan

RainDog 02-20-2013 02:18 PM

Re: Water damage to cabin sole
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetb60 (Post 992517)
Damage does not appear to extend under the settees ( but not 100% sure of that).

On the PS boats, the sole does not extend under any furniture. All the furniture is part of a fiberglass pan that is bonded directly to the hull. The sole is also sitting on a fiberglass pan. Replacing the sole will not require removing any furniture.

chuck53 02-20-2013 03:00 PM

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It's the damage you can't see that scares me. I'd walk. Too many boats out there without these issues.

sweetb60 02-23-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Water damage to cabin sole
 
Thanks for the input. Raindog, good to know about the extent of the sole (which was confirmed during a conversation my husband had with Thumper at PSC) Alan, We will also look further into the mast/wiring harness issue. There was no evidence that water had intruded to the point that the engine was affected. However, it is showing its age. Knowing we would be looking at older boats with age issues, we allowed for repowering in the budget. Lots of other cosmetic issues, but the owner is willing to negotiate with someone who will care about the boat and give her some TLC. That's us! We know there are lots of boats out there, but we are really sold on the features of this boat. Barring any nasty surprises at the survey, we hope to become happy owners of a soon to be beautiful again PS37! Thanks again to all who responded. This forum has been a good source of info as we were researching the boat.

jnewcomer 02-24-2013 11:26 AM

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Regarding water coming down the mast: LeFiell has a good solution for this. We purchased a new mast step from them last year for $50 (jpg attached). It has drain holes, a proper standpipe and comes painted with LP. Talk to Rodney at LeFiell for details.

Getting the nuts off the bolts for the mast step and SS plate is another story.

John
s/v Pelagic
1980 C37 Yawl #22

TeakGuyFL 02-27-2013 08:39 AM

Re: Water damage to cabin sole
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetb60 (Post 992517)
We are looking at a PS 37 that has visible water damage to the cabin sole. The access panels over the fuel tank are warped and have to be pried up to look beneath. The edges of the sole around the panels are discolored and there are some soft spots. There is also a wet wood strip directly in front of the head. Damage does not appear to extend under the settees ( but not 100% sure of that). Both hatches (salon and v-berth) leak. This appears to be the water source which caused the damage. Is replacing the cabin sole feasible? Not knowing the extent of the damage (under the settees, etc) should we run away as fast as we can? Can anyone recommend a craftsman/woodworker or yard on the east Florida coast (Stuart,Fl) who could give us an educated opinion on the current condition and cost to repair?


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