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P35 - moving traveler forward

I know... I have seen many forum discussions about this topic but I have yet found someone that has moved the traveler and provided some input in the discussions that I have found.

I'm interested in doing this (Winter project) if it makes since. I sail with my family (6 & 8 yr old children) and the mainsheet seems to always be in the way and I have to reach behind me to trim. In terms of better sailing, it does not make real since as you will most likely get a better angle with the end boom mainsheet.

Also the concept is trying to set up the lines at arms length so I can sail I can trim most of the time by myself and not rely on my wife or another trimmer.
Another question is if a winch would be needed most of the time as you could put a higher purchase, lets say 6:1 and pull in at the helm.

Any feed back on this would be great.
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I have yet to come up with a better place for it, If you put it on the cabintop it would be in the way of the companion way or way to far forward, if you put it just forward the helm, the cabin will be in the way unless you raise it up, then that would be in the way and rule out a dodger.
You may be able to run the sheet around in such a way as the control point is closer to the helm.
I've thought of moving it up and aft, but I'll sail with it this way for a while to make sure.
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Take a look at this:

http://pearson35.com/boatsandowners/...m-sheet_m1.jpg

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This arrangement moves the mainsheets forward above the companionway.

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I notice a couple other pictures online and on the Pearson 35 webpage.
I think this is something that I am serioulsy going to do but may put off until this winter. For me, the benefits of having the traveler and mainsheet out of the way but still be able to access quickly is important to us. We don't let our children roam around on the decks too often but they are somewhat isolated within the cockpit.
Is this your P35?
One thing, those bridge travelers are expensive!
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No, this isn't mine. I just study all the pics on that web site, because I learn about other peoples modifications (like this). My local expert says that he doesn't feel this setup should be done without reinforcing the fiberglass of the cabintop. He insists that, other than that, it should not affect performance. I think I'd like to something like this as well. It would make the cockpit less harried with the family.

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The PO of our boat relocated the traveler to just behind the cabin, and upgraded it to a Harken windward sheeting traveler. It works out very well for my wife and I, as she can handle the tiller and main and I take care of the foresail and other tuning. (I admit it: She's a better helmsperson than I, and can read the main better.)

You will want to upgrade the purchase. We found the 4:1 system the PO left it at unusable for us, so we upgraded it to a 6:1 system. Also: There's a lot more stress on the boom, with mid-boom sheeting, so you might want multiple bails and individual blocks, rather than a single two- or three-sheave block.

But... our boat is a tiller boat. Do you have a tiller or a wheel? If a wheel, you might consider relocating the traveler to just in front of the pedestal, like the 10M has.

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David,
The P35 I have seen with their traveler moved forward doesn't seem to have their cabin reinforced. With the mid-boom connection, the load of the mainsheet would be 2500 lbs (25 knots - before reefing) , because there are two mounting brackets on your traveler bridge and to be conservative, we times that by 70% (not 50% because of the two mounting brackets), that's 1800 lbs max at each mounting bracket. If you provided a wood backplate and perhaps a another one on top at 10" x 12", that's 15 psi of pull.
I bet there is equal amount of draw or pull on the winches, especially when reeling them in.
The bridge traveler will cost around $1,900 and if the cabin needs to be reinforced, that would add, +/-$1,000 or so, plus finish work.

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