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Old 10-30-2009
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I don't think there is going to be a quick solution to somalia pirates .
. . . . . . . just nobody wants to make the call.

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"I think it would be a good idea"
Response from Mahatma Ghandi when asked what he thought .
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Yeah, as if the Somalians understand anything about civilisation.

I heard on our news last night that the yacht was found drifting and the pirates have demanded $10m for the safe release of the couple ( they probably haven't tumbled to the difference between US$ and GB pounds).

I'm sure it will be less expensive to send them just as an ecouragement to pull their heads in a little.
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Anyone have reports of piracy near the western Solomon Islands?
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(CNN) -- A British couple kidnapped from their yacht in October by pirates pleaded for their life in a video broadcast on Britain's Channel 4 Friday, warning that their captors were running out of patience and could kill them if no ransom is paid.
The Somali pirates have demanded $7 million for Paul and Rachel Chandler, taken from the 38-foot Lynn Rival just days after the couple set sail from the Seychelles islands for Tanzania.
"Our kidnappers are losing patience," said Paul Chandler, 59. "They are concerned that there has been no response at all to their demands for money."
As Chandler spoke during the two-minute video, he was surrounded by armed men pointing their weapons at him.
"We are also concerned that these people will lose patience and will not feed us -- and I have no doubt that they will not hesitate to kill us, perhaps within a week or so of now if there is no response," he said. "So, please somebody get in touch. Otherwise we just sleepwalk to a tragic ending."
It wasn't clear if the Chandlers were speaking on their own or delivering scripted statements.
So far, the British government has refused to pay the ransom demand or negotiate with the pirates, who are reportedly holding the Chandlers somewhere in Somalia.
"The government will not make substantive concessions for hostage takers, including the payments of ransom," according to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office's official statement.
The government called the Chandler's innocent tourists and demanded their immediate release.
The video is the first time the Chandlers have been seen since their abduction, although they have previously been allowed to speak with Rachel Chandler's brother, Stephen Collett.
Both Chandlers said they were in good health, but feared their captors would not hesitate to kill them.
"We are very concerned about the future," said Rachel Chandler, 55. "Our captors are very impatient that nobody has been in touch about negotiations. We ask the government and the people of Britain and our families to do whatever you can to at least open negotiations with these people about money so that perhaps our lives can be bought back."
Pirates have been very active off the east coast of Africa in the past several years, operating out of lawless Somalia.
Two vessels were attacked the day after the Chandlers set sail. One of them, a cargo ship, was successfully boarded and seized off the Seychelles, while the other fought off its attackers near the Kenyan coast.
The first nine months of this year have seen more pirate attacks than all of 2008, the International Maritime Bureau, which monitors shipping crimes, reported October 21.
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Unfortunitly for this couple, is that People/Governments have Paid Ransoms befor..

When you PAY, you Condone and Condem others to suffer the same thing..

The Russians did it the Right way with the First Skyjacking of a Russian Air liner.
The KGB found a Close Relative of the Skyjackers leader and Sent her in 2 suit cases to the Skyjackers..
They ALL got the message and Skyjackers did NOT consider taking Russian aircraft as a viable concept after that..

So, the Brits, ie, MI5 or ? whatever, Find a Very close lovedone of the Kiddnappers leader, ie, Wife, Child, MOTHER. Cut them up into small peaces and send that as the Ransom payment.
You simply Cannot pussyfoot around with these Monkeys. No other Strat works...
This is very sad for this couple, but it is a matter of Training these Monkeys the correct way.. They need to know What to Expect..

Yes, if it were me or a Friend, i probably would react differently. but then I would Not be seeing it Rationaly !
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They wont kill them.....they are not that stupid

We are talking about Monkeys, Not People, of course they can KILL them..
This is not even a 4th world country.. thay have very little to lose, and as with the Hijackers thet were Shot to death by the US Sharpshooters, They were Teenagers.. Of course they ARE, Stupid enough to Kill, Anybody..

I say we need a Green Glass parking lot in that part of the world..
NOBODY on the planet, will Miss them..
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Story was on NBC news tonight (Sat). Showed them pleading with the British gov't. Pirates had machine guns and RPG's... now if only the SAS could figure out where they are and ......... well.... take care of things.
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We are talking about Monkeys, Not People
Unfortunately, Pickle, we are talking about people here. Alexander Solzhenitsyn in The Gulag Archipelago said it well:
It was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. Even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained; and even in the best of all hearts, there remains a small corner of evil.
And when you are that far down with nothing at all, have a government that is corrupt beyond our worst nightmares, have no food, your family is starving, then you will do anything. When there is no work, no schools, no support, nothing, and your brother says, lets do this thing and we will have a million dollars, then it seems they do it. And when you have absolutely nothing, what is there to loose?

Do I have an answer, nope, sorry. But I will not be sailing in that area either.

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