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Obama's lapel pin

George Rodriguez approaches the subject from virtually every angle but, perhaps, the one that counts. Obama, by the removal and explanation of the removal, is appealing to a certain kind of voter. what type of voter might that be?

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George Rodriguez approaches the subject from virtually every angle but, perhaps, the one that counts. Obama, by the removal and explanation of the removal, is appealing to a certain kind of voter. what type of voter might that be?

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That's an odd article. Here it is in a nutshell ...

Our party has had this position on an issue ...
But polls show that Americans believe this other thing ...
So we should change our appearance. Then we can win.
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Only by conservative right wing religious folks, and the Global Warming debate is done too, right?
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You have to wonder how any person can be considered a qualified candidate for President of the United States who needs a remedial course in patriotism. You'd think anyone smart enough to get through Columbia University and Harvard Law School would be able to understand, without the need for a tutor, that it's a good thing for a presidential candidate to show his loyalty to the country that he wants to govern.
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I can't believe that if it comes down to a Democrat in the White House I'd rather it be Hillary Clinton than anyone else.
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Lapel pins are the litmus test of patriotism? Please. Not everyone is so superficial. Different people show it in different ways. It is just plain ridiculous to think that ANY of the candidates are lacking in patriotism.

Amazing how easy it is for some to believe that people they disagree with are not only immoral, but unpatriotic. What other evil lurks in the hearts of Democrats? Please do tell.

ps if patriotism smears are all the Repubs have to argue in their favor for this election, then they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel - You guys need some REAL reasons to vote for your guy or you will lose.
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Tell ya what sck5. Why don't you tell us what qualifications to be President your boy has to offer (aside from meeting the Constitutional requirements). And what he has to offer policy-wise that would be a reason to vote for him.
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well, he'd raise income tax to 55% for the rich, which means most americans can pay less and have a bigger chunk of the pie

Not exactly an endearing quality to me.
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But, just who are the "rich"? The Obama's could eaily be considered rich, yet Michelle Obama is continually remarking how hard it is for them, money-wise.
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Lapel pins are the litmus test of patriotism? Please. Not everyone is so superficial.
To me it's not only a test of his patriotism, but it's also a test of his judgment. He's spending millions of dollars going all around the country trying to persuade millions of people to vote for him. These voters are people who remove their hats when the flag passes by, and who place their hands over their hearts, and sing the national anthem. They are people who chant USA! USA! USA! at athletic contests. Most of them haven't attended Columbia University or Harvard Law School, but if you and Obama don't understand the importance of a simple symbol of all that it means to be an American, the voters certainly do. It's not that complicated. You have to wonder, how much time and thought did Obama devote to making his decision to shun the lapel pin and stand there without his hand over his heart? Was he reckless in making such a decision, or did he give it a great deal of thought? When he was calculating the pros and cons of wearing the lapel pin and placing his hand over his heart, what negatives did he perceive? What possible harm could come from him wearing the pin and placing his hand over his heart, like millions of his countrymen, whose votes he was soliciting, not just for a county judgeship, but for President of the United States?

That decision is going to haunt Obama throughout the campaign. There'll come a time when he'll be forced by strong public opinion to wear the pin and place his hand over his heart. The mere presence of John McCain, an honest-to-goodness war hero who has endured far more for his country than the weight of a lapel pin, will shame him into it. When it happens, it'll be a constant reminder to everyone of his appallingly poor judgment.

You guys are on the verge of nominating a pig in a poke for President of the United States. During the campaign, he'll come out of that poke, and everyone will be able to see who he really is and how he thinks. You have no idea how much trouble you're in!
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