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As usual, Thomas Sowell gets right to the nub of things.

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Some people who think it is wrong to tell children to believe in Santa Claus nevertheless think it is all right to tell adults to believe that the government can give the whole population things that we cannot afford ourselves. Believing in Santa Claus is apparently bad for children but OK for adults.
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Just out of curiosity, if the US isn't supposed to tell others how to live, WHY are they telling us how we should live?
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The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA. This guy should run for President one day...

'We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights':

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes. (This one is my pet peeve...get an education and go to work....don't expect everyone else to take care of you!)

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)

ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.

ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from! (Lastly....)

ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!
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He is wrong on the last one. The founding fathers explicitly did NOT found the country on any type of religious belief at all. See here

Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians

And the phrase In God We Trust became our national motto in 1956!!! See here

In God We Trust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And if you dont like these facts, TOUGH!!!!!
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"Talk with enemies is only correctly done from a position of over-whelming strength. "

sway - does that mean you think if we took on Iran that they would win? You gotta be kidding
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and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!

Sorry about that last line. I didn't mean to sound so brash. I copy / pasted this from an email. I should have proof read better.
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Roosevelt (either one) didn’t talk with the enemy, Truman didn’t talk with the enemy, Kennedy didn’t talk with the enemy, Reagan didn’t talk with the enemy, and as Cam pointed out Chamberlin did. Look what that got us. Carter did and look what that got us. Clinton did . . . look what that got us.
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He is wrong on the last one. The founding fathers explicitly did NOT found the country on any type of religious belief at all. See here
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
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"Kennedy didn’t talk with the enemy, Reagan didn’t talk with the enemy"

The Soviet Union wasnt our enemy? I guess those thousands of nukes pointed at us were just for fun.

And on the comment about being endowed by our creator - Yes, many of the founding fathers were Deists. They believed in a creator but not a whole hell of a lot more than that. google it and you will see. But I guess you are right that you could call that a religious belief. I guess I was thinking of their aversion to linking the government to any religion. There is not much doubt about that.
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