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And let us not forget that rather than do something to find a long term fix to Social Security, Mr Obama instead intends to destroy the foundation of the program by disassociating one's contributions from one's benefits.
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Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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I'm always more than slightly amused when a lack of leadership is decried. Leadership is funny that way; when it's in your preferrred direction it is bold and insightful, while contary to your desires it resembles nothing other than misguided folly. People crying out for "true" leadership often seem to also be susceptible to the diplomacy bug. Diplomacy is generally what you do when you have no other options. It's really just a nice way of saying that you'll kick the can down the road and, maybe, by the time we get back abreast of it things will have changed.
And we're supposed to consult with and respect Yurrup's opinion. Here's an obvious but simple question, why? For nearly a quarter century the US protected Yurrup via the NATO shield, long after our european betters had abandoned the notion of an effective military force sufficient to the Soviet threat. The US protected Yurrup in spite of Yurrup. Most of the Euro's didn't want the Pershing missile in the 1980's, yet we installed them and the USSR, for that reason and others, relinquished. In fact they basically ran up the white flag. What'd Yurrup do to bring this chain of events about? Bupkis is the word I believe.
So we should get on the same page as the feckless ninnies that we've protected since the end of WWII while they dither and clamour for their opinions to be taken seriously. If you won't save yourself, why would I listen to your opinion on saving anything?
Chances are, if they call you arrogant and insensitive to Yurrup type needs, or they say that you're not a team player-taking into account Yurrup's ideas of diplomacy-you're probably a leader and don't give a rat's patoot about what the Euros think. Think about it; the last war the French won was the French Revolution and they were fighting themselves. (g)
Leadership is probably happening when it seems that everyone is P.O.'d the most.
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After much searching, I have been unable to find any information regarding the Obama surge in Afghanistan in regards to an exit strategy, timetable for withdrawal of troops, political benchmarks, or any indication of what "victory" would be. You know the things I mean, all the things that are SO important for Iraq. An Iraq we must abandon at a certain date, irrespective of the situation and circumstances that exist at that time, so that we may focus our efforts in another arena.
In other words, we should continue with the Bush plan, without being sure we have secured Iraq first. This I guess, is what passes for leadership, intelligence and enlightened diplomacy, among those who favor Mr Obama. Leave one war unfinished, while moving on to the next one. One we are on the cusp of completing in a strategically successful manner.
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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Being the unintelligent person I am (obvious by my lack of fawning adoration for The One) I wonder if anyone can guide me to the instances of when European countries have acting not in their own interests first, but in the interests of the US.
And then, perhaps someone can explain to me, why the interests, feelings and aspirations of any country outside of the US, are more important than those of the people of America. Please, someone enlighten me as to why an American President should put the interests of anyone before those of the American people. Let me understand why I should care more about what the people of Germany or France feel, than what I do.
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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And, speaking of people from other countries, can someone name me another country in the world where illegal immigrants are not only allowed to flaunt the law, but to receive government benefits as well? Another country that I can enter, in defiance of their rules and regulations, and not only remain, but prosper?
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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Hell, as long as I'm on a rant, I may as well keep going .....
Can someone tell me why we keep accepting (as in electing and re-electing) people, who rather than take care of the problems we already have, keep looking for new ones to solve instead?
Why, with entitlement programs like Social Security and MediCare going bankrupt, we hear, not how they will be made solvent, but instead about even more programs to drain our wallets?
Why we accept a lack of fiscal restraint from a government that wants to take more and more of our money?
Why my efforts to improve my life, should be drained for the benefit of others who choose not to make their own effort?
Why I should look, not to myself, but to the government to give me the things I need?
Why I should accept behavior I believe is immoral, simply because someone else wants to indulge themselves?
And lastly, why should I put anyone's opinion of what is best fror me, above my own?
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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Oops, forgot one .....
Where in the Constitution does it say that the government has the aurhority to save me from the consequenses of my own actions? That the government has a responsibility, obligation, or right to restrain me from being stupid, foolish or irresponsible?
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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Originally Posted by PBzeer
Why I should accept behavior I believe is immoral, simply because someone else wants to indulge themselves?
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Just that one thing that keeps me from being a good republican.
Because your morals are not my morals and you have no right to impose your's on me when, following my morals, it does not impose on you in any way except to offend your morals.
I could add a few more convolutions, but you get the picture I'm sure.
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But please note Chuck, all I said was accept. I didn't say disallow. There is a difference, and it has nothing to do with party affiliation, but with one's moral compass.
Perhaps I should have added ..... why should I be vilified for opposing that with which I disagree?
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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