Democrats versus Republicans

[retclt]

Now There's a credible source! . . . . . . . . . . . . excuse me while I . . . . . . . . . . .Blahhhhhhhhh.

The ABC Blog with a Pop writer I never heard of . . . until now . . . to rattle the cages.

I need a beer.

Good night all.

[PBzeer]

sck5 ....... why don't you actually read the article? Perhaps though you had monitor problems and didn't see this part .......

"We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."


She says it's not accurate to describe the party as secessionist -- they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.


"My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation," Clark says. Others in the AIP "believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow." Some advocate statehood -- but a fuller statehood than exists now.

She doesn't know what Palin's position was."


What part of that are you unable to comprehend? Or do I need to explain, once again, word by word?

[serenity4u2]

Your exactly right Cam and PB.... Kids do make mistakes... Who really knows what was going on with this 17 y/o girl and her fiance- (except for sex)... It is really NOT our business.... It is between the two people and there parents. The teens would not be the first teens who may have had a few drinks on prom night and sexual activity took place... Who blogging really knows and why the nasty smears against a 17 year old girl... Remember her mom (sarah palin) eloped with her HS sweetheart and remain happily married post TWENTY years... Better tract record then the Hollyweird crowd and Bill & Hill.

As far as Absinance, that is the only sure fire way to prevent premarrital births (barring rape/incest)... Yes, if the 17 y/o's listened to the parents they would not be in thier situation... Then again, they are not the first nor last tenns to ignore there parents... I did- lol.... What really angrys the liberals is that this young girl is getting married and keeping the baby... They would be praising her if she aborted the baby..

As far as the AIP..... I support that mindset. I'm a person who has visited and at one time thought of relocating to AK... That state entered our unioun and for Fifty years has had the desire to use its natuaral resources... Not just Oil, but also even more Natural Gas... I'd be pissed as an Alaskan if some liberal hypocrite like the MASS Senators and other liberals denied them the right to use thier resources... It is there economy and vital to there standard of living... Maybe we should ban CA from using its beaches because of the sea life disruption- I just know there are some fish who would prefer CA peolple staying out of there water... I call Ted Kennedy a Hypocrite b/c when MASS wanted to put up wind mills in the bay- he complained.. It ruined his pretty view of the bay.... MA is sueing the Federal Governemnt to get this right... So much for alternative energy as perscribed by the liberals...

Sarah Palin Rocks-- Go Alaskans...

[PBzeer]

Mitch - I don't know about you, but when I was a teen, I thought, like most teens do, that I was smarter than my parents. Perhaps you didn't have to learn by making your own mistakes, that ..... hey, maybe they know what they're talking about.

I would hope, that on reflection, you might understand why I feel your comment on Sarah and Todd Palin's parenting skills comes across as being totally gratuitous.

[ebs001]

Serenety you make the same mistake as SA, pro choice is pro CHOICE. Liberals, if there really is such a thing are not angry about what Bristol has decided to do and never will be. This has nothing to do with Bristol. It's the possibility of deceipt and the possibility of hypocirsy of Sarah which is really the question. I already know that SA approves of hypocrisy. He said so in a previous thread because he speeds. Is that what conservatism is all about?

[PBzeer]

Where's the deceit? Where's the hypocrisy?

I totaled my first car because I didn't listen to my parents and drove while drinking. Does that make them bad parents? Does that mean they didn't teach me right? Does that make them hypocrites because I didn't do what they taught me?

[PBzeer]

If McCain wins this election, I'll wager the Obama camp will look back on this Labor Day weekend as their Waterloo. And they'll have a fawning media and the whacked-out netroots to thank for it.

Anyone that thinks that humiliating a 17 year old girl for political advantage won't cause a back lash among decent people on both sides is sadly mistaken. And when you throw in the denigration of small town, middle America by trying to dismiss Governor Palin's experience as being inconsequential, one has to wonder, just how in touch these people are with real life.

We've all heard how the Democrats want to reach out to the so-called values voters. From this viewpoint, it looks like they are just the latest thing thrown under the Obama bus.

[cardiacpaul]

I dunno 'bout choo, but I'm all fer askin' Ms Palin (the Gov., you perv's) to have MY bebes. I'm jus' sayin' she's hot. way hot.

Anyway, in typical fashion, some people try to draw comparisons wehre I just don't see the dotted line. maybe its me.

We've had barack and hillary running against bush and I think they finally got the press release that an old white haired dude is startin' to kick their azzz.

Then they shout "CHANGE DAMMIT, WE'RE ALL ABOUT CHANGE" from High on the hill.... and select a guy thats been in the senate since the 70's for his "experience". Uh-huh, ok, got it....

Then, well, the old white haired dude snatches up a dudette for his running mate, and lo and behold, what do we see? Oh, yea, a direct "Our Chosen one has WAY more experience than the old white haired dudes choice....

Uh... fella's... the race, I thought was between the Chosen one and the old white haired dude. NOT The Chosen one and the old white haired dudes second in command. maybe its just me.

and he's still kickin' your azzz....


And one other thing... the campaign had four 30 second commercials all in the can, all set to go as to why the old white haired dudes choice(s) were the wrong one... except, he chose someone else. And they were left scratchin' their heads... I wonder who they called as to what to do about that.

Now tell me, again please, who's better prepared for that 3AM phone call?

Seems to me that the old white haired dude knew eggzactly what he was doin' and just faked y'all outta your shorts. SCORE!

[serenity4u2]

Ebbs, I have need to fight with you... My points were made in earlier post..
Yes Pro Choice is just that.... Think the kid made a CHOICE... Two in fact.. One, not listening to parents- as if my kids listened to me (I wish)... As if I listened to mine (I also wish)... Second CHOICE... having a baby vs running to a plan parenthood clinic and getting an abortion and not telling parents.. Many kids do that- Its a CHOICE... The Democratic blogs speak for themselves... The Girls mom is guilty of nothing decietful... She taught her kids her values. Her one kid did not listen and thier is a consequence for such a choice... To demean the 17 y/o kid as the democratic blogs have done is shameful- if they had any shame... I kind of think my earlier post spoke for itself and I think other posts by PB and others speaks for itself... You lost me with the "is that conservatism?" Not sure if you want me to answer that or give you a definition. I am certainly not a dictionary nor a voice for conservatism, yet I will give my brief reply... Its about personal responsibility and accepting that my choices have consequensces.. Its about not blaming others for my situations in life... From my own life experiences... I retired from the armed forces after 30 years... I seen many entering retirement and had virtually little savings and much debt. After 30 years of saving each payday and the years of interest and compounding I was sitting pretty good and have no need for future employment. Thats financial responsibility.. I do not need Bush, Obama or anyone to hold my hand nor do I suffer from economic anxiety. I made a choice to purchase a home and at 50 years of age own it outright- I can not understand people in there 60's with 200K mortages and massive debt with little savings. My thinking is they made some less then steller choices... Oh perhaps like my one 65 year old friend who complains about the economy and lives in a apartment and blames BUSH.. I ask him if his SEVEN divorces have something to do with his situation? and if BUSH is responsible for his marital problems... My background is in Health care... I have seen sick people with COPD who still smoke, or OBESE people with heart and or diabetes... These same people eat like crap and consider getting off the couch excessive exercise... Yet, there failing health is the fault of BUSH... I really do not know how to write this at present- other then to say- Choices have Consequences- and most people make there choices, while blaming the consequences on other people and expect other people to solve the self created problems... BTW, this may be another way I look at what may be called conservative... 535 member of our Congress spend money on wasteful programs while running up a Huge Credit Card Debt... Too many americans also live with out a budget and in there means (meaning the to run up massive debt)... The same americans blame congress for run away costs... In my household I have very little influence on the 535 members of congress.. I can vote for one US Rep and TWO US Senators- thats three people out of 535... Yet, in my household I have tremendous influence over TWO People- myself and the better half...

Ebbs, I do not know if this is conservatism as you asked... It is just my observations...

[SelkirkGrace]

Originally Posted by serenity4u2

Ebbs, I have need to fight with you... My points were made in earlier post..
Yes Pro Choice is just that.... Think the kid made a CHOICE... Two in fact.. One, not listening to parents- as if my kids listened to me (I wish)... As if I listened to mine (I also wish)... Second CHOICE... having a baby vs running to a plan parenthood clinic and getting an abortion and not telling parents.. Many kids do that- Its a CHOICE... The Democratic blogs speak for themselves... The Girls mom is guilty of nothing decietful... She taught her kids her values. Her one kid did not listen and thier is a consequence for such a choice... To demean the 17 y/o kid as the democratic blogs have done is shameful- if they had any shame... I kind of think my earlier post spoke for itself and I think other posts by PB and others speaks for itself... You lost me with the "is that conservatism?" Not sure if you want me to answer that or give you a definition. I am certainly not a dictionary nor a voice for conservatism, yet I will give my brief reply... Its about personal responsibility and accepting that my choices have consequensces.. Its about not blaming others for my situations in life... From my own life experiences... I retired from the armed forces after 30 years... I seen many entering retirement and had virtually little savings and much debt. After 30 years of saving each payday and the years of interest and compounding I was sitting pretty good and have no need for future employment. Thats financial responsibility.. I do not need Bush, Obama or anyone to hold my hand nor do I suffer from economic anxiety. I made a choice to purchase a home and at 50 years of age own it outright- I can not understand people in there 60's with 200K mortages and massive debt with little savings. My thinking is they made some less then steller choices... Oh perhaps like my one 65 year old friend who complains about the economy and lives in a apartment and blames BUSH.. I ask him if his SEVEN divorces have something to do with his situation? and if BUSH is responsible for his marital problems... My background is in Health care... I have seen sick people with COPD who still smoke, or OBESE people with heart and or diabetes... These same people eat like crap and consider getting off the couch excessive exercise... Yet, there failing health is the fault of BUSH... I really do not know how to write this at present- other then to say- Choices have Consequences- and most people make there choices, while blaming the consequences on other people and expect other people to solve the self created problems... BTW, this may be another way I look at what may be called conservative... 535 member of our Congress spend money on wasteful programs while running up a Huge Credit Card Debt... Too many americans also live with out a budget and in there means (meaning the to run up massive debt)... The same americans blame congress for run away costs... In my household I have very little influence on the 535 members of congress.. I can vote for one US Rep and TWO US Senators- thats three people out of 535... Yet, in my household I have tremendous influence over TWO People- myself and the better half...

Ebbs, I do not know if this is conservatism as you asked... It is just my observations...

I certainly can't call this "conservatism" but I sure would like to understand how you have "tremendous influence" over your better half. I have been working on that for 25 years and I would not claim it!
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