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Originally Posted by PBzeer
Jody - if you read back through the thread, you will find many unresearched assertions about Gov Palin. It's a case of keep flinging it up there, and pray something sticks.
Some examples:
She belonged to the AIP
She increased earmarks (from $500m to $350M, oops, that's a decrease)
There's some more, but I can't remember them right now.
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Pb--she has only been in positions to ask uncle Ted for earmarks, which she has most definitely done including trips to dc to lobby for them. She has not been in a position to increase them all by her lonesome. I don't recall that particular assertion but whoever made it was incorrect.
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1.20.09 Bush's last day the end of an error !! Hopefully we still have a constitution and economy left by then.
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Mitch - if you didn't see it, check my post just before yours.
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Is this what foreign policy experience is?
In an interview with Bill O'Reilly, when asked about the surge (which he opposed and said would not work) Mr Obama says, it worked beyond our wildest dreams, and then added, in ways we never anticipated. But, he'd still vote against it.
Of course it worked beyond his wildest dreams, because he didn't think it would work at all. His only dream was that it wouldn't work.
In ways we never anticipated? What other way was it going to work? And this guy wants to be CinC?
And then, to top it off, knowing it worked and knowing what would have happened (at least I hope he did) if we hadn't done it, he'd still say no.
This is leadership?
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Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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Let me first say, I don't like Obama. But the fact that the surge did work, also says, we never had enough troops to do the job right, in the first place. Soldiers being forced to do a second and even a third tour of duty, backs me up on that. That also says a lot about our present leadership.
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Free, no one that I know of doesn't think Bush screwed it up in the beginning, but one test of leadership is admitting you're wrong, and then correcting the problem.
It also illustrates the difference between McCain (yeah, that's the guy Obama is supposed to be running against) and Obama. McCain saw the problem, suggested a way to fix it. Obama saw the problem and tried to run away from it.
Another difference this illustrates between the two, is that while McCain has said, I don't care who gets the credit, let's just get it done. Obama implies, yeah it worked, but it was just luck, rather than admit McCain was right.
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Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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I could be wrong, but Bush has never admitted that he was wrong.
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He fired his secretary of defense, put in a new commander, with a different strategy. That sounds like I was wrong to me. Whether he actually said the words, I don't know. It seems rather implicit in the action.
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4000 dead soldiers is what is wrong to me. I can not wrap my mind around the concept that terrorist would rather fight an army with tanks and jets rather then some soft target anywhere in America.
Please explain to me, how that keeps them out of America or at least acknowledge that Bush did this entire war for his own personal glory/vision of what is right and used whatever misinformation that he could to get others to believe in him. "I'll make you proud Daddy" comes to mind.
EDIT: I forgot we went there to find WMD's when we couldn't find them we went to battle the terrorist.
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Pb--I do not think that having, or even publishing anyone's ssn is a violation of a privacy law. There are commercial outfits around that will find the ssn for anyone for a price. SSN's are commonly available on state and local data bases and some financial filings required by the SEC that are public. You just have to know where to look, and anyone who makes a living doing investigations knows where those kinds of records are found.
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Mitch,
The laws are getting more strict in this area. Even the government and states are getting away from the use and publication of SSN. Many of the laws that have taken effect this year may have caused this. I have hired an employee that works with clients in this area just because of the possible ramifications.
For example if you have any personal information collected on a client, that information has to be locked up or made unattainable to anyone other than those within your business that have authority. Even when you go to the doctors office they can not ask you your SSN where others are able to here. They are required to ask you in private or have you write it on the form it is to be used with.
Even a computer screen in todays environment has to be out of view when entering personal information. For example if you have a window behind you where Joe Public can see the information being entered, could cost you a substantial fine.
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Okay Free, remember though, this is my opinion only.
First, you either accept that we are in a war with radical islam, or you don't. If you don't, if you believe that 9/11 was a one time thing, then there's no way to explain the war in Iraq. So, before I spend a bunch of time typing something that is a waste of time, where do you stand on that question?
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Ontario 32 - Aria
Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love. JCP
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