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More change we can believe in .....

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Russert: “When we talked back in November of ‘04 after your election, I said, ‘There’s been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?’
Obama: Absolutely. I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.”
Russert: “So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?”
Obama: “I will not.”
From Meet the Press 01/22/06
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Rather than simply distort (which is nothing new on either side), Obama now goes for the direct and intentional lie.
FactCheck.org: Obama's Social Security Whopper
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Everytime I think things can't get any further into the gutter, the high-brow left surprises me once again. While SNL is a comedy show, I find it inexplicable that anyone could find humor in incest. Yet, that is their claim, as justification for doing a skit accusing Todd Palin of incest.

We hear continued criticism of GOP tactics being sleazy, while nary a word is heard about Dem tactics. In fact, the Washington Post goes so far as to claim a McCain ad false for using the Post's own reporting.

While media bias is nothing new, the extent of it this time is beyond anything I have seen in my 44 years of following politics.
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Some great thoughts:

AGELESS WIT, OBSERVATIONS, AND GREAT TRUTHS

A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson


"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed;
if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."
- Mark Twain

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity
is like a man standing in a bucket and
trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-Winston Churchill

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul
can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man;
a debt he proposes to pay off with your money.
-G Gordon Liddy

Democracy must be something more than two wolves
and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
-James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money
from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
-Douglas Casey, (Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University)

Giving money and power to government is
like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

Government's view of the economy could
be summed up in a few short phrases:
If it moves, tax it;
If it keeps moving, regulate it...
and if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan (1986)

I don't make jokes I just watch the government and report the facts.
-Will Rogers

If you think health care is expensive now,
wait until you see what it costs when it's free!
-P.J. O'Rourke

In general, the art of government consists of taking
as much money as possible from one party
of the citizens to give to the other.
-Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics
doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you!
-Pericles (430 B.C.)

No man's life, liberty, or property is safe
while the legislature is in session.
-Mark Twain (1866 )

Talk is cheap...
except when Congress does it.
-Unknown

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal,
with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
-Ronald Reagan

What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.
-Edward Langley, Artist (1928 - 1995)
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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul
can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money
from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
-Douglas Casey, (Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University)
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Fully explaining the support of the Democratic party:

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Just for the record, I'm not one of those folks that would be paying more under the Obama plan to raise taxes on folks with more than 250k taxable income per year.

It does not get my wrath because it takes my money.

It gets my wrath because it's just stupid, and to me - anti-american.

Support flat tax, get every ones skin in the game.
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Sure, Bill Gates should have the same tax rate I do. Thats really fair.
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Sure, Bill Gates should have the same tax rate I do. Thats really fair.
Where you been Sck5 ? Republicans have been here saying all kinds of Republican stuff while you were gone.
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And why is everyone paying an equal percentage unfair? Bill Gates gets no more benefits from the taxes he pays than I do, why should he have to pay a higher percentage?
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Just heard a clip from Obama in Green Bay saying McCain has done nothing in regards to oversight on Fanny and Freddy, yet it's part of the Congressional Record, that he was, in fact, the one to propose oversight, that the Dems rejected, without even bringing it to a vote.
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