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After some ruminating, I think if anything comes out of this it will be these two things:

While McCain was saying Obama just didn't get it, Obama kept saying McCain was right. Not right about Obama not getting it, but the juxposition of the two phrase might stick.

On the economy, McCain kept pushing spending cuts, while Obama called for more spending. And when is Obama going to stop saying he's giving 95% of the people tax cuts, when 30% of them don't even pay any taxes?
Beez...I was dieing just waiting for him to say just that...what's a tax cut on nothing? !!!!! Probably not the politically correct thing to say though since even those who pay no taxes think they're overtaxed. (g)
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Cam..when's the next debate?
I believe that the "Baberaham Lincoln" of the Republican party takes on Joe Biden next Thursday night. 3 to 2 odds that Biden comes off as out of touch with the world outside the beltway.
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But when taken in conjunction with his stand on cap gains, as articulated in the primary, the logic becomes clear.
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[i]MR. GIBSON: n each instance, when the [capital gains tax] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. The government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

SENATOR OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year -- $29 billion for 50 individuals. (emphasis added).
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A nice summary from another blog:

Ace Said,

McCain came across as professional, experienced, pragmatic and ready to lead. Obama came across as smooth, studied, idealistic and ready to follow.

I doubt any of us watching changed sides or views, but I would give this debate to McCain in terms of appearing ready to assume the Presidency.
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Post debate McCain ad (already?):
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Chances are, if you're reading this thread or posting in it, you've probably made up your mind on your candidate of choice. While the debates will not change many minds, readers here should remember that the rest of America, the America that basically does not follow politics closely, will be enormously affected by the debates. We'll see what their reaction is in the morning.

I just briefly made the mistake of turning to MSNBC where the ubiquitous Chris Matthews was pontificating. I only left it tuned there for a sentence or two because it wasn't that other blowhard, Olbermann. Matthews was explaining for all our edification about how it was hardly undesirable to leave a war incomplete. Take, well, Korea for example and then, well, there's Korea.

90 seconds of this nitwit was more than enough to wonder who the heck is paying him all that money to discuss things he knows nothing about! We left Korea in a stalemate to basically avoid a massive war with the Chinese which, if we'd have continued to push north, we'd have gotten. Now leaving under such circumstances is understandable but it's hard to look back, as Matthews is apparently incapable of doing, and say that the end result was desirable. Last I checked, there's a sawed-off wack-job in charge over there in the North and he's developing and exporting some scary weaponry. Mr. Matthews is apparently unwilling to concede that there might be more of a similarity of consequences between Iraq and Korea than might first be imagined.

I cannot imagine listening to such claptrap for longer than 90 seconds.
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I'm watching it on CNN now..

MCCain seems more professional in his speech..Obama more down to the earth and poor guy...

Right now, appart from discussing Washington expenditures, neither has said anything new...
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40 minutes into it..none has answered the first question...ehehehehe

What a bunch....I see no change in the future for you my dear friends...

I am right..you guys better off starting voting for dead Presidents....at least those are less damaging....
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Bwahahahahaha

the interviewer had to change his question......and still nothing...

I agree with Mccain on the nuclear..you really need it..but he will never go past the tree hughers..
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I find it interesting that some on the left are remarking how McCain kept speaking to the camera, as if this was a bad thing. Evidently, someone forgot to tell them it was a TELEVISED debate.
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