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Chuck - the only thing I've heard is McCain doesn't want to point fingers and seem partisan. Only problem is, that's just the kind of partisanship that IS necessary.
You can not fix a problem until you know the root cause of the problem. Prior to that the best you can do is put bandaids and lipstick on it; and we see that approach all too often.

High light the problem (CRA), attack the problem (CRA) and fix the problem (CRA).
of course the root of the problem with the CRA is that it is afoundation of the Democratic party that they have to help the poor man have a 'fair' and 'equal' life.
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It really is just partisan bullshite isn't it ?

No wonder the pollies get away with waffle upon waffle when their supporters on both sides are nothing more than the caramel sauce and ice cream topping.

Ref Obama and Acorn.

snopes.com: Obama Required Banks to Lend Money to Poor People

While down here we have Kevin Bloody Rudd. An improvement on the mean spirited little pile of kangaroo dung he succeeded but thats a bit like suggesting Gloria Jeans is better than the other mob. Lowest common denominator.
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TDW...I agree with you and your Snopes citation that Obama had little to nothing to do with the policies that led to the banking failure. Tying that can to his tail is quite a reach.
Nevertheless...this is how organizations like acorn work. They find a potential violation of law and sue...or threaten to sue and bring bad publicity on a company. In any event, it will cost the company a TON of money and or business from bad publicity to defend itself. So...they settle to make it go away. The SETTLEMENT is where the real purpose of the suit is shown as agreement on a whole 'nother set of issues is demanded. In this case, Citi agreed to "help ease the way for low and moderate income people to apply for mortgages". So...what starts out as a redlining case...ends up as a "we will relax our standards in lending" agreement. Oh and by the way...you can bet the setllement included a generous payment to Acorn so they could do it again.

This is a strategy employed time and time again by organizations like Acorn and that Obama is closely associated with this type of activism IS a cause of concern. It is the crowd he hangs out with and their view of "social justice" that concerns me.
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Palin just hammered Obama for palling around with terrorists. The relationship with Wm. Ayers rears it's ugly head. I'd encourage anyone to "Snopes" or otherwise investigate that one. You're known by the company you keep. (which I'm starting to think...has me doomed.)
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Thomas Sowell has strong words for Republican ineptitude and even stronger for Democratic corruption and influence peddling.
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Mr Harris trots out the usual atheist line which is very convincing, to atheists. the rest of his hyperbole on religious beliefs only ignores the religious beliefs of the vast majority of our previous presidents. I've a sense that the majority of voters will have little trouble with a Veep candidate whom believes in God. Just a guess on my part.

The rest of his article levels a series of accusations that might similarly be leveled at the Democratic presidential nominee himself, without acknowledging that Palin is the Veep candidate and not the principle.

For instance, his criticism of her not having met foreign leaders is stupendously ludicrous in that just a few weeks ago she was the Governor of Alaska only. How many foreign leaders had Obama met before he started his presidential campaign? Harris also ignores the fact that American presidential candidates traditionally come from the governorships of the country and not the Senate. This election is an anomaly in that both candidates hail from the Senate and have extensive foreign policy experience. The last Senator elected to the office was JFK and, before him, Warren Harding. The country has somehow muddled through without the benefit of Senators in the White House.

I can think of areas to legitimately criticize Palin in for lack of experience, and foreign policy is indeed one of them, but Harris' three page diatribe is not the basis for that criticism. He seemingly has trouble with Americans voting for the candidate they most feel that they can trust. And before anyone calls that odd, consider how you select a physician. Do you research all of his credentials? Do you ask for his mortality statistics from his practice? Or do you tend to go with the doctor whom you feel most comfortable with based upon his seeming knowledge and ability to explain matter to you?

That phenomena was what infuriated the left about Ronald Wilson Reagan. Secure in the knowledge that they had proved the man a dunce and an incompetent they were stunned when the American public elected, and re-elected, him by overwhelming margins of victory. We knew exactly what Reagan meant when he said it, even if he didn't say it exactly correctly or even accurately. And Palin has that same aura about her. It's the sense that you use the most in your daily life when meeting others. That sense that the other person is well grounded and of sober, sound judgment. And even more, that you can rely on them in the lurch to come through and to stand firm when times are tough. See JF Kerry and A Gore election results versus GW Bush for further illustration.
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Did you just put Palin on the same page with Reagan? She's on the page with Kerry and Gore, not Reagan. As a nation, we are in a bad spot here. Once again voting for the less of two evils. What my gut says when I see her is that she doesn't want to do it anymore. Thats what I see in her eyes, "Have I made a big mistake?" Biden is just more of the same washington merde. No, not me. Norway, Nova Scotia, I'm tellin' ya!

I'm not convinced Obama will be successful if he is elected, but I KNOW McCain won't be. He would have been good in the 90's, when Republicans were Republicans, but not with what we are going through as a country.
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