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If Republicans are so in favor of registering everyone, how come they vote against motor-voter bills every time they come up?
A cynical person might think they dont want too many poor people to register because they might vote Democratic.
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You don't get to do that around here without prior approval. Your old personna has been banned. You may continue to post under your new personna. .
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Works for me. I expected no less from you Cam 
Thanks
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sck5 - as usual, you bring up something else, when you can't make your original point. You can defend ACORN all you want, but they are at fault. How many people have stated that they have told them they are already registered, yet they go ahead and register them again. Or when they just sit in a room and fill in names.
As for motor-voter, how concerned can people be, if they can't make the simple effort to register to vote without it being part of something else? Funny though, the same people that tout motor-voter, are against having to show ID when voting. Claiming it's an imposition.
You have to love it though, when groups like ACORN get Fed money, to register Democrats.
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As for motor-voter, how concerned can people be, if they can't make the simple effort to register to vote without it being part of something else? Funny though, the same people that tout motor-voter, are against having to show ID when voting. Claiming it's an imposition.
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Now come on PB. Showing ID when voting is such a hassle. Besides, do you have any idea how difficult it would be fore ACORN to supply thousands of people with 47 different ID's each? Then the ID's would have to actually match the info on the voter rolls. And you would have to make sure that you bus the right people with the right ID card to the right polling station. What a logistical nightmare. It's so much easier if you just let the homeless guy pick a name off the voter rolls at the polling station when he gets there.
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Silly me, I forgot about how hard it would make it for fraudulent voting.
I've yet to understand the thinking behind making voting the easiest interaction with the government. If it's too much effort for someone to vote, I'd rather they didn't, since it's obvious it isn't very important to them.
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If it's too much effort for someone to vote, I'd rather they didn't, since it's obvious it isn't very important to them.
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exactly PB
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Originally Posted by PBzeer
show ID when voting. Claiming it's an imposition.
You have to love it though, when groups like ACORN get Fed money, to register Democrats.
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They register Republicans as well as Democrats. They register whoever they find in malls. And yes.. their pay plan screwed the pooch royally as they pay for unverified applications....regardless of Party.
Rush Whatshisname is in a frenzy trying to tie Obama to these guys because he jointly represented ACORN 13 years ago. Jointly because his 'partner' was the US Department of Justice. Some smoking gun..eh? Of course Rush Whatshisname failed to mention this.
What's a bit more current is the clip MSNBC is running of McCain being ACORN's featured speaker just 2 years ago. He was calling them great Americans for their work in registering ...wait for it....
Republicans
Nice fact checking John.
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Silly me, I forgot about how hard it would make it for fraudulent voting.
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No one is agruing about their incompetence. Yet we are arguing that incompetence is not fraud. Incidently, relax, the Dallas Cowboys offensive line will not be voting in Nevada.
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Check out Obama's position as trainer for ACORN staff. His website now admits it, just that he wasn't an employee at the time, so evidently, he thought enough of them to do it for free.
Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Is that really a FACT, or just another lie? Let’s take a look at a quote from a 2004 article - Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign - written by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader, which was published in the journal Social Policy. Did we mention that Social Policy recently pulled this particular article from their website, while leaving links to all other articles up?
“Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).
Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends.”
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Originally Posted by US27inKS
Agreed, incompetence is not fraud. Filling out and turning in false voter registration cards is fraud. Or are the ACORN reps so incompetent that they don't remember their own name? Maybe they have to keep filling out cards with different names in hopes that they will stumble across their own name and get one right.
BTW you never did "back up every word you type", I'm still waiting.
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I've had a busy week. Which post was that?
By the way, I'd go easy on the ACORN issue. I watched the clip of John McCain calling them great Americans. He addressed them 2 years ago and praised them for registering Republican voters.
Apparently they are McCain's 'people', and you'd agree with that assessment after hearing his address. On the other hand Obama hasn't been anywhere near them in 13 years.
Rush Whatshisname got that wrong too. Why am I not surprised?
Incidently where the heck in Kansas can anyone use a sailboat larger than a dinghy? There's no real water for 500 miles.
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