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When I am skipper of the boat everything that happens on it is my responsibility.

It is the same with Presidents.
Being responsible for something isn't the same thing as being at fault. One is an ability, the other is a ledger of account.
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When I am skipper of the boat everything that happens on it is my responsibility.

It is the same with Presidents.

You guys have no problem holding Bill Clinton responsible for everything that happened during his presidency even though he certainly didnt have control of congress during that time. The same logic applies to Bush. He is captain of the ship at the moment (god help us) so he gets credit for what is good and what is bad.
Actually SCK, if you've read my posts you know better. I lay accountability where it falls, usually a shared thing.

It's not a ship, it's government. It's not an apple, it's a orange.
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Bush Bailout proposal - 3 pages

Bailout Passed - 452 pages

To be fair, we'll allow 49 pages of conditions on Bush's 3 pages, that still leaves 400 pages of crap that had nothing to do with what Bush asked for. So who's Bill is it?
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now that's a good spread the wealth kind of answer.
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When I am skipper of the boat everything that happens on it is my responsibility.

It is the same with Presidents.
That's a true statement, but the problem is, this particular Capt has had deal with a mutiny on a ship full of hostle, agenda driven, little cabin boys ( that includes Pelosi ) who had the advantage of a even more hostle, agenda driven media, who was counting the times his body swam around the ship.

But I think the fair thing to do would be to place blame consistant with their approval rating, so I would place 9% of the blame on congress and 23% on Bush, the other 68% is our fault, we elected them
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Oh, and there was nothing wrong with the economy until the Dems took over Congress

Granted, it was just waiting to happen, but the housing bubble wasn't the result of Bush policy.
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Seems to me that as long as these policies are working the democrats are happy to claim them as their own, but when they fail they become part of Bush's failed economic policy.
Actually, the reverse is happening in this thread. There's a democratic Congress, which conservatives are using to take Bush off the hook.

Guys, it isn't only me. Bush's approval ratings are now in the mid 20's. The poll question about the country heading in the right direction is now running 85% against Bush.

The country has decided who's fault this mess is by a 3 to one margin and have voiced the fact they want changed by a 7 to 1 margin. Yet you guys are typing in your own little world here that everything is someone elses's fault.

No wonder Obama is going to win this election. Republicans never got it. You can't fix something unless you admit it's broken.
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Do you have any connection with reality, or just a reading disorder? Show me one post that says Bush doesn't have any accountability. The only one trying to shield anyone is you Rick. You refuse to admit that Congressional policy is any factor at all. Bush may be in the 20's, but at least he's still twice as popular as Congress, and has been throughout the year.

So spare us your blathering tirades, Just like you were wrong about Presidents signing bills, you're wrong about this being all the fault of any one person or group.
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A look at tax plans:

The Election Choice: Taxes - WSJ.com
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