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What did you expect? He is a Dem so he appoints Dems. He is also far more middle of the road than the campaign rhetoric claimed. I must admit I didnt expect Hillary to have a role in the new administration but hell, she is way more qualified for that than many of Bush's appointees were for what they did.
Hillary is about as qualified for Secretary of State as the stewardess who was on the same flights overseas with her! GW Bush' appointees to the same position? Colin Powell and Condolezza Rice. Care to compare resumes?

Obama is a Chicag pol doing it the Chicago Way, and keeping his enemies closer to him than his friends. btw, Hillary would be a fool to take the job. What it gains her could as easily be lost and she loses the ability to be critical of the Obama administration later.
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ahhh, one resume thats good for the guys soon to be in power...

the Criminal Defense Trial Lawyer that is going to be The Chosen Ones General Counsel. Gregory Craig
He's got a good number of cases under his belt.
He defended Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
and...
In 1990, Mr. Craig represented Senator Edward M. Kennedy as a witness in the trial of his nephew, William Kennedy Smith, in Palm Beach, Florida. In 1983 to 1984, working with Edward Bennett Williams, Mr. Craig represented a prominent businessman who was charged with tax evasion in federal court in Miami. In 1981 to 1982, working with Vince Fuller, Mr. Craig represented John Hinckley who was charged with the attempted assassination of President Reagan

In 2000, Mr. Craig successfully represented Elian Gonzalez's father, Mr. Juan Miguel Gonzalez, in administrative and court proceedings involving Mr. Gonzalez's effort to regain custody of his son, Elian.

For the first time in history, a Pres (elect) has a criminal attorney as counsel.... not even Nixon...
Oh well.
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The Criminal Defense Trial Lawyer that is going to be The Chosen Ones General Counsel. Gregory Craig
He's got a good number of cases under his belt.
He defended Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
and...
and Kofi Annan, in the Oil-for-Food scandal.

btw, what was Solzhenitsyn accused of exactly?
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Nixon didnt need a criminal attorney. He was himself both a criminal and an attorney.

But it really is amusing watching how SHOCKED you guys are that Obama and co. are getting ready to play politics in Washington. It would be naive to do otherwise and you know it. The Repubs arent going to roll over and play dead and the Dems are not a particularly unified bunch. Each and every thing Obama tries to do will take a lot of politicking - That is the way our system works and until the Republicans are truly crushed in 2010 we cant ignore their obstructionism. (Their carping and CONCERN is already happening).

And sway I will grant you Colin Powell was a good (even great) pick for his job. Too bad the Bushies didnt listen to him more and canned him after 4 years. Condi I never liked. Sure, she had the resume but something about her reminded me of a girl in grade school I knew who always sat in the front row and prissily sucked up to the teacher. Rubbed me the wrong way. Condi doesnt seem to have accomplished much either. I thought Powell was far and away a better and more solid representative for the USA than she is. But thats just me.
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"she (Palin) made far fewer factual mistakes than Biden during the campaign"

If you say so. She's still an idiot though. We Dems are hoping you guys rally behind her. She would make a GREAT candidate for you!!!!!!

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An idiot would be the guy you guy's in New York last elected governor. Let's not ascribe the same level of wisdom to Alaskans.
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Spitzer? Yeah that guy sure blew himself up big time. Fastest political suicide ever, I think. But in his case it was his little head that was stupid, not his big one. Sarah Palin is just scarily ignorant. Thats a bit different from having trouble keeping your pecker in your pocket.

And there you have a big complaint I have with the Republican party. They have lots and lots of smart and competent people. Would it have killed them to pick one of THEM instead of a moronic beauty pageant runner up? It really doesnt speak well for McCain that he picked her - But that is all history now. Talk to me in 4 years and I will bet you a crab dinner at the boat show that Palin not only isnt the nominee but that she made a fool of herself more than once in the debates running up to it (if she even dares to appear in such an uncontrolled setting)
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"Scarily ignorant"? How do you manage to arrive at this informed position? Certainly not through any objective process. But then, she has conservative values and principles, so we know she can't be smart or competent, right?

I don't know if Palin will run in 2012 or not, but I'll wager who ever the GOP candidate is, they are a conservative in action as well as word.
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Denial is so um, democratic isn't it
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It's going to be interesting watching the One, who sought to be everything to everybody, become not much of anything to not much of anybody.

Unfortunately, speeches are not going to solve any problems. Another autobiography won't fix anything. (Although I have figured out this two autobiographies by age 45 thing .... it's not like he was doing anything else.) Setting up yet another website won't cure any ills. Nor will being cool address any of the issues we face.

After almost 2 years of "Change we can believe in" and "The audacity of hope", we're pretty much left with hoping he doesn't screw things up too bad.

But, there is a bright side. After all, in 4 years as a Senator, he spent most of his time running for President, even though he said he wasn't going to. So maybe by this time next year, he'll be working on being Secretary General of the UN.
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